1 00:00:45,509 --> 00:00:41,360 [Music] 2 00:00:49,319 --> 00:00:45,519 this hope radio for the masses lucky 3 00:00:51,149 --> 00:00:49,329 July 8 1947 the Army Air Forces has 4 00:00:53,039 --> 00:00:51,159 announced are applying this has been 5 00:00:55,950 --> 00:00:53,049 found and is now in the possession of 6 00:00:59,939 --> 00:00:55,960 the army the game is rigged changed the 7 00:01:02,579 --> 00:00:59,949 game game changer I occasionally think 8 00:01:06,719 --> 00:01:02,589 how quickly our differences worldwide 9 00:01:11,350 --> 00:01:06,729 would vanish if we were facing an alien 10 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,760 [Applause] 11 00:01:20,099 --> 00:01:17,249 fade to black with your host Jimmy 12 00:01:26,630 --> 00:01:20,109 church on the game-changer Radio Network 13 00:01:31,770 --> 00:01:28,550 I need your help to get 14 00:01:37,639 --> 00:01:35,480 [Music] 15 00:01:39,770 --> 00:01:37,649 you're listening to fade to black with 16 00:01:45,100 --> 00:01:39,780 Jimmy judge on the game change in that 17 00:01:52,510 --> 00:01:48,399 fade to black 18 00:01:55,359 --> 00:01:52,520 the spoke radio for 19 00:02:00,940 --> 00:01:55,369 [Music] 20 00:02:08,139 --> 00:02:00,950 math says hi in Dillon that's right it's 21 00:02:11,500 --> 00:02:08,149 Tuesday October 9th 2018 285 days into 22 00:02:15,460 --> 00:02:11,510 the new year just 80 days left we are 23 00:02:17,470 --> 00:02:15,470 live from a bunker somewhere in the 24 00:02:20,530 --> 00:02:17,480 middle of beautiful downtown Burbank 25 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:20,540 California and I would like to watch him 26 00:02:27,339 --> 00:02:23,330 everybody listening all around the world 27 00:02:29,920 --> 00:02:27,349 all across the United States hither and 28 00:02:33,670 --> 00:02:29,930 thither to and fro back and forth up and 29 00:02:35,730 --> 00:02:33,680 down east and west north and south far 30 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:35,740 and near 31 00:02:40,450 --> 00:02:37,970 [Music] 32 00:02:43,030 --> 00:02:40,460 it's made to fly for Kate ACR the 33 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:43,040 GameChanger Network and Katie RA the 34 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:47,090 planets I am your host Jimmy Church what 35 00:03:01,060 --> 00:02:55,000 that's right it's Tuesday which means it 36 00:03:06,030 --> 00:03:01,070 is day two of our Egypt week here on 37 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:06,040 fade to black yeah man 38 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:08,650 and tonight very special guest 39 00:03:18,539 --> 00:03:13,810 Christopher Dunn is finally here that's 40 00:03:21,479 --> 00:03:18,549 right I finally made my way to 41 00:03:24,479 --> 00:03:21,489 Christopher Dunn so get ready for that 42 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:24,489 it is gonna be a very very fun and 43 00:03:30,899 --> 00:03:27,090 informative and knowledgeable show 44 00:03:32,610 --> 00:03:30,909 incredible Chris Dunn is here want to 45 00:03:37,110 --> 00:03:32,620 remind everybody tomorrow night night 46 00:03:40,050 --> 00:03:37,120 three of our Egypt week Brad Claussen is 47 00:03:43,110 --> 00:03:40,060 gonna be joining us that's right the 48 00:03:46,319 --> 00:03:43,120 artist is going to be here now we all 49 00:03:48,180 --> 00:03:46,329 know Brad from from Pearl Jam of course 50 00:03:51,259 --> 00:03:48,190 at Metallica and Nine Inch Nails and 51 00:03:53,879 --> 00:03:51,269 Soundgarden and I could go on and on 52 00:03:57,259 --> 00:03:53,889 there's that fish right I can go on and 53 00:04:00,509 --> 00:03:57,269 on we know Brad from that but his 54 00:04:03,300 --> 00:04:00,519 foundation and his knowledge when it 55 00:04:06,330 --> 00:04:03,310 comes to ancient Egypt and artwork and 56 00:04:09,119 --> 00:04:06,340 sculpture and the symbology and and what 57 00:04:12,539 --> 00:04:09,129 it all means and how not only does he 58 00:04:15,750 --> 00:04:12,549 incorporate it into his own artwork and 59 00:04:19,529 --> 00:04:15,760 his and his rock and roll stuff but how 60 00:04:21,870 --> 00:04:19,539 it's changed us and and and what it 61 00:04:24,450 --> 00:04:21,880 truly means and he's one of the great 62 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:24,460 artists on this planet and of our 63 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:26,710 generation serious business 64 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:28,570 tomorrow night Brad Claussen is here so 65 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:30,490 what what I mean last night my new 66 00:04:34,890 --> 00:04:33,490 tonight Chris tomorrow night Brad it 67 00:04:37,890 --> 00:04:34,900 just doesn't get any better 68 00:04:40,170 --> 00:04:37,900 it really doesn't why why is everybody 69 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:40,180 going with this Taco Tuesday how do you 70 00:04:46,230 --> 00:04:43,330 guys know that that's what I'm gonna do 71 00:04:47,790 --> 00:04:46,240 tonight well it's my birthday well 72 00:04:51,659 --> 00:04:47,800 tomorrow's my birthday 73 00:04:54,149 --> 00:04:51,669 okay so let's be clear on that but if I 74 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:54,159 push it I can get it to midnight and 75 00:04:59,550 --> 00:04:57,010 then I get to eat what I want right all 76 00:05:01,800 --> 00:04:59,560 the way through til midnight tomorrow so 77 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:01,810 maybe I will do a taco truck on the way 78 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:05,050 home but that's on me but thank you for 79 00:05:09,870 --> 00:05:07,210 the suggestion I think we're doing tacos 80 00:05:12,330 --> 00:05:09,880 tonight there you go it is night to 81 00:05:15,690 --> 00:05:12,340 Egypt week here on fade to black you 82 00:05:18,029 --> 00:05:15,700 know what to do all the social media 83 00:05:19,500 --> 00:05:18,039 platforms that's what we do here on 84 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:19,510 stellar 85 00:05:26,460 --> 00:05:23,770 everything is to be turned to fade to 86 00:05:29,790 --> 00:05:26,470 black you know what to do okay and head 87 00:05:32,700 --> 00:05:29,800 over dance Telecom register is such a 88 00:05:35,220 --> 00:05:32,710 great social media platform I designed 89 00:05:37,530 --> 00:05:35,230 and built for you so much fun to hang 90 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:37,540 out over there I did it all day today by 91 00:05:47,190 --> 00:05:43,330 the way man yeah yeah 92 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:47,200 and I went I'm I you know what I'm gonna 93 00:05:55,860 --> 00:05:52,770 do this I I don't know maybe by Thursday 94 00:06:00,540 --> 00:05:55,870 I'll have all you know what I did today 95 00:06:03,990 --> 00:06:00,550 Rita doesn't even know this but I went 96 00:06:11,460 --> 00:06:04,000 and and did some birthday shopping on 97 00:06:13,980 --> 00:06:11,470 Amazon for myself I really did 98 00:06:17,610 --> 00:06:13,990 you know I think one is going to be here 99 00:06:19,170 --> 00:06:17,620 tomorrow and I can't wait to show it to 100 00:06:22,650 --> 00:06:19,180 you guys and then there'll be another 101 00:06:26,100 --> 00:06:22,660 one here on Thursday I couldn't it was a 102 00:06:28,740 --> 00:06:26,110 pair but it was weird it was it was a it 103 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:28,750 was a set but I couldn't get the set to 104 00:06:34,140 --> 00:06:31,120 ship on the same day or arrive on the 105 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:34,150 same day you know and and and Amazon's 106 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:36,370 funny with that you know you have to do 107 00:06:39,930 --> 00:06:38,050 this and do this and you can get them 108 00:06:41,940 --> 00:06:39,940 both on the same shipment if you you 109 00:06:44,430 --> 00:06:41,950 know do that and I couldn't get it to 110 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:44,440 line up I couldn't throw through a bunch 111 00:06:49,710 --> 00:06:47,440 of different vendors I couldn't get it 112 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:49,720 to arrive on the same day I'm so upset 113 00:06:55,050 --> 00:06:52,210 about that but anyway so that's what I 114 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:55,060 did today I shopped for myself 115 00:06:59,400 --> 00:06:57,250 and I just couldn't I couldn't help 116 00:07:00,780 --> 00:06:59,410 myself I couldn't help myself but you're 117 00:07:03,510 --> 00:07:00,790 gonna you're gonna really dig it's all 118 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:03,520 Co tea on Thursday and I don't want to 119 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:06,210 it's gonna have to be Thursday because 120 00:07:13,170 --> 00:07:11,050 if I do one tomorrow and show to them 121 00:07:16,140 --> 00:07:13,180 that then the one on Thursday you know 122 00:07:18,750 --> 00:07:16,150 but if I do it all at the same time yeah 123 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:18,760 yeah so you'll have to wait until 124 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:20,650 Thursday thank you for all the birthday 125 00:07:25,380 --> 00:07:23,170 wishes by the way they're coming in now 126 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:25,390 and I really appreciate that it is I 127 00:07:28,890 --> 00:07:28,090 know it's the big double nickel yeah 128 00:07:31,190 --> 00:07:28,900 that's right 129 00:07:34,250 --> 00:07:31,200 fifty-five years old I don't 130 00:07:35,930 --> 00:07:34,260 it I know I'm not begging for 131 00:07:37,190 --> 00:07:35,940 compliments here you don't have to say 132 00:07:40,670 --> 00:07:37,200 Jimmy you don't look it 133 00:07:43,910 --> 00:07:40,680 but I certainly don't feel it I didn't 134 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:43,920 if this is what they you know if this is 135 00:07:49,700 --> 00:07:46,650 what fifty five is because when I was a 136 00:07:52,010 --> 00:07:49,710 kid fifty-five was bleep an agent 137 00:07:56,930 --> 00:07:52,020 ancient and and the people that I knew 138 00:08:01,610 --> 00:07:56,940 that were 55 acted 55 and they looked 55 139 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:01,620 I I'm not that person I just I I don't 140 00:08:05,870 --> 00:08:02,730 feel it 141 00:08:08,570 --> 00:08:05,880 all right so there you go but yeah 55 142 00:08:11,390 --> 00:08:08,580 years old all right okay where am I at 143 00:08:12,890 --> 00:08:11,400 at J Church radio is Twitter very simple 144 00:08:15,290 --> 00:08:12,900 you know what to do go follow like and 145 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:15,300 subscribe over to maturity Oh calm the 146 00:08:20,270 --> 00:08:17,970 sandbox is hashtag F to be any questions 147 00:08:23,930 --> 00:08:20,280 or comments during the show just use 148 00:08:26,420 --> 00:08:23,940 hashtag F to be Q you can also email 149 00:08:31,130 --> 00:08:26,430 throughout the show tonight Jimmy at 150 00:08:36,050 --> 00:08:31,140 Jimmy Church radio.com okay I've got 151 00:08:38,090 --> 00:08:36,060 some sad news breaking news and I've 152 00:08:40,490 --> 00:08:38,100 just I've got to get this out of the way 153 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:40,500 and and I'm crushed 154 00:08:48,590 --> 00:08:46,050 Rita is crushed but our dear friend of 155 00:08:52,460 --> 00:08:48,600 this community and of yours and of this 156 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:52,470 show Celeste Yarnell passed away she 157 00:08:57,230 --> 00:08:53,490 left this earth 158 00:08:59,200 --> 00:08:57,240 this past Sunday October 7th our 159 00:09:00,380 --> 00:08:59,210 thoughts and prayers go out to her 160 00:09:05,290 --> 00:09:00,390 husband 161 00:09:11,740 --> 00:09:05,300 nassim and and her family so Celeste is 162 00:09:16,100 --> 00:09:11,750 just an amazing dynamic smart beautiful 163 00:09:16,670 --> 00:09:16,110 person and long struggle and we all know 164 00:09:22,130 --> 00:09:16,680 about that 165 00:09:24,020 --> 00:09:22,140 but it's just sad sad sad sad sad and 166 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:24,030 and you know I think of a couple of 167 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:26,010 things when I think of Celeste most 168 00:09:30,620 --> 00:09:27,810 people think of star trek and I get that 169 00:09:32,660 --> 00:09:30,630 I I really do it just popped up on 170 00:09:35,210 --> 00:09:32,670 Twitter it took it took every bit of 171 00:09:42,350 --> 00:09:35,220 that long there she is in in Star Trek 172 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:42,360 but it's Alvis always Celeste 173 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:44,490 I hope that 174 00:09:49,970 --> 00:09:47,130 you're in a very very very beautiful 175 00:09:53,870 --> 00:09:49,980 place and you know how many friends that 176 00:09:56,269 --> 00:09:53,880 you look behind down here so just go and 177 00:09:59,660 --> 00:09:56,279 do your thing and we'll see you soon 178 00:10:03,199 --> 00:09:59,670 okay Celeste Yarnell passed away 179 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:03,209 October 7th she was 74 years old all 180 00:10:10,940 --> 00:10:07,130 right other breaking news nikki Haley 181 00:10:13,850 --> 00:10:10,950 surprised the world today by resigning 182 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:13,860 as the United States ambassador to the 183 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:19,050 United Nations nobody knows why a year 184 00:10:28,730 --> 00:10:24,050 and a half on the job and and quit hey I 185 00:10:32,930 --> 00:10:28,740 gotta say Mickey I think she was 186 00:10:35,690 --> 00:10:32,940 actually liked I really do all right for 187 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:35,700 for the political world and and the 188 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:39,810 world stage politics in general you know 189 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:43,410 nikki Haley Wow so anyway for whatever 190 00:10:48,019 --> 00:10:45,450 reason I think she surprised everybody 191 00:10:50,030 --> 00:10:48,029 including the White House maybe even her 192 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:50,040 family I think she just woke up today 193 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:52,050 and said I don't want to do this anymore 194 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:54,570 and there you go she resigned today 195 00:11:01,670 --> 00:10:57,890 ambassador to the United Nations 196 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:01,680 Fernando Alban now now I need you to 197 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:04,170 listen to this this is huge 198 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:08,730 breaking news Fernando Alban one of the 199 00:11:12,980 --> 00:11:10,890 suspects accused of trying to 200 00:11:17,090 --> 00:11:12,990 assassinate Venezuelan president and 201 00:11:21,850 --> 00:11:17,100 Nicolas Maduro right with drones drones 202 00:11:26,319 --> 00:11:21,860 armed with explosives died by suicide 203 00:11:31,510 --> 00:11:26,329 after jumping out a 10th floor window of 204 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:31,520 the Bolivarian intelligence service the 205 00:11:39,130 --> 00:11:36,810 Venezuelans intelligence agency and yeah 206 00:11:42,680 --> 00:11:39,140 right 207 00:11:44,870 --> 00:11:42,690 what okay I'm supposed to be a 208 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:44,880 professional broadcast here here I'm not 209 00:11:49,370 --> 00:11:46,970 supposed to have that kind of reaction 210 00:11:51,590 --> 00:11:49,380 to to the news I'm just supposed to 211 00:11:52,340 --> 00:11:51,600 report than is right I'm not supposed to 212 00:11:56,300 --> 00:11:52,350 have an opinion 213 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:56,310 Yeah right the flood waters that 214 00:12:00,740 --> 00:11:58,290 followed hurricane Florin 215 00:12:05,329 --> 00:12:00,750 which made landfall in North Carolina on 216 00:12:09,319 --> 00:12:05,339 September 14th have now spawned millions 217 00:12:13,699 --> 00:12:09,329 of mega monster mosquitoes across the 218 00:12:19,220 --> 00:12:13,709 state and they are three times the size 219 00:12:28,460 --> 00:12:19,230 of normal mosquitoes and they can bite 220 00:12:30,110 --> 00:12:28,470 through two layers of clothing right I 221 00:12:32,210 --> 00:12:30,120 mean you've got flooding you've got this 222 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:32,220 got your house gets kids get things you 223 00:12:40,730 --> 00:12:34,730 got stuff to worry about it now you got 224 00:12:43,420 --> 00:12:40,740 giant mansour monster mosquitoes that 225 00:12:46,730 --> 00:12:43,430 they're gonna attack you can you imagine 226 00:12:51,139 --> 00:12:46,740 the the stinger and the mouth and the 227 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:51,149 bite on amis je toe a giant pissed-off 228 00:12:56,449 --> 00:12:54,570 mosquito think about that for a second 229 00:13:00,230 --> 00:12:56,459 all right the big announcement came 230 00:13:03,439 --> 00:13:00,240 today the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 231 00:13:08,470 --> 00:13:03,449 announced its nominees for induction 232 00:13:15,139 --> 00:13:08,480 into the 2019 class are you ready kids 233 00:13:20,350 --> 00:13:15,149 Def Leppard Devo John Prine Roxy Music 234 00:13:24,170 --> 00:13:20,360 Stevie Nicks Todd Rundgren LL Cool J 235 00:13:27,710 --> 00:13:24,180 Kraftwerk Janet Jackson mc5 out of 236 00:13:28,660 --> 00:13:27,720 Detroit Radiohead Rage Against the 237 00:13:32,300 --> 00:13:28,670 Machine 238 00:13:37,850 --> 00:13:32,310 Rufus featuring Chaka Khan The Cure and 239 00:13:39,980 --> 00:13:37,860 the zombies now I gotta say okay alright 240 00:13:43,490 --> 00:13:39,990 alright let me get to the top five 241 00:13:46,730 --> 00:13:43,500 artists as selected by the public will 242 00:13:48,590 --> 00:13:46,740 be announced in December the 2019 243 00:13:50,630 --> 00:13:48,600 induction ceremony will be held at the 244 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:50,640 Barclays Center in Brooklyn New York on 245 00:14:02,059 --> 00:13:55,970 March 29th 2019 and I'm gonna say it now 246 00:14:04,819 --> 00:14:02,069 can't they all get inducted out of every 247 00:14:06,199 --> 00:14:04,829 year every every announcement every year 248 00:14:08,519 --> 00:14:06,209 by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame we've 249 00:14:12,749 --> 00:14:08,529 all went oh come on 250 00:14:15,689 --> 00:14:12,759 really what is this but that Def Leppard 251 00:14:18,749 --> 00:14:15,699 Evo John Prine Roxy Music Stevie Nicks 252 00:14:22,469 --> 00:14:18,759 Todd Rundgren LL Cool J Kraft word Janet 253 00:14:23,249 --> 00:14:22,479 Jackson mc5 Radiohead Rage Against the 254 00:14:26,369 --> 00:14:23,259 Machine 255 00:14:31,919 --> 00:14:26,379 Rufus featuring Chaka Khan The Cure and 256 00:14:34,289 --> 00:14:31,929 the zombies huh and you know what that 257 00:14:41,459 --> 00:14:34,299 sounds like you know what I can do this 258 00:14:45,989 --> 00:14:41,469 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 259 00:14:50,639 --> 00:14:45,999 17 I'm gonna do for my bumper music this 260 00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:50,649 weekend on coast I'm using this list for 261 00:14:56,149 --> 00:14:52,569 the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame I'm just 262 00:14:58,889 --> 00:14:56,159 telling you right now that is that is 263 00:15:01,139 --> 00:14:58,899 it's just not right only the top 5 make 264 00:15:03,299 --> 00:15:01,149 it and I don't even know where to go 265 00:15:06,809 --> 00:15:03,309 with that yeah Def Leppard they deserve 266 00:15:09,809 --> 00:15:06,819 it Roxy Music mc5 Rage Against the 267 00:15:12,749 --> 00:15:09,819 Machine for sure The Cure yes 268 00:15:15,779 --> 00:15:12,759 the zombies Todd Rundgren you know I'm 269 00:15:17,069 --> 00:15:15,789 man hello cool cool Jay Janet Jackson I 270 00:15:22,139 --> 00:15:17,079 don't know what to do here 271 00:15:23,939 --> 00:15:22,149 I don't John Prine oh man that's 272 00:15:26,279 --> 00:15:23,949 incredible it's an incredible list I 273 00:15:29,249 --> 00:15:26,289 just gave you mind look Def Leppard yeah 274 00:15:32,189 --> 00:15:29,259 gotta go there you got to go there mc5 275 00:15:34,499 --> 00:15:32,199 yes Rage Against the Machine yes the 276 00:15:37,019 --> 00:15:34,509 cure of the zombies there's my five you 277 00:15:39,089 --> 00:15:37,029 know and I'm cutting out Roxy Music that 278 00:15:47,099 --> 00:15:39,099 ain't right Stevie Nicks any right Todd 279 00:15:50,789 --> 00:15:47,109 Rundgren hello it's me man mc5 I kick 280 00:15:54,539 --> 00:15:50,799 out the jams who even out there it knows 281 00:15:57,509 --> 00:15:54,549 kick out the jams that's right kick out 282 00:16:01,919 --> 00:15:57,519 the jams I toured with this band they 283 00:16:04,619 --> 00:16:01,929 were called the big f and I think I 284 00:16:08,039 --> 00:16:04,629 think they opened with kick out the jams 285 00:16:10,799 --> 00:16:08,049 or they closed with a cover version of 286 00:16:14,399 --> 00:16:10,809 and I can't remember Mark Christian if 287 00:16:17,219 --> 00:16:14,409 you're listening right now tweet in what 288 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:17,229 what song did you get kick out the jams 289 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:20,290 was that opener or was that an encore 290 00:16:25,259 --> 00:16:23,170 I can't remember they did a good version 291 00:16:28,350 --> 00:16:25,269 of it though don't forget to subscribe 292 00:16:30,780 --> 00:16:28,360 to our podcast it is just two dollars 293 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:30,790 per month go to Jimmy Church radio calm 294 00:16:35,220 --> 00:16:32,410 click on the podcast banner you can also 295 00:16:37,650 --> 00:16:35,230 become a fade or not in our membership 296 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:37,660 section on the site all you got to do is 297 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:39,250 click on that that's all you got to do 298 00:16:44,430 --> 00:16:41,769 and you get commercial free downloadable 299 00:16:45,060 --> 00:16:44,440 archives autograph gear all that stuff 300 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:45,070 ok 301 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:49,570 alright alright let's get this show 302 00:17:00,509 --> 00:16:54,130 crackin happy birthday to today Sharon 303 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:00,519 Osbourne is only 66 director Guillermo 304 00:17:06,870 --> 00:17:03,850 del Toro today is 54 Pan's Labyrinth 305 00:17:09,510 --> 00:17:06,880 Hellboy Pacific Rim the shape of water 306 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:09,520 didn't that win that one when the Oscar 307 00:17:17,569 --> 00:17:11,290 last year didn't it a couple years ago 308 00:17:23,250 --> 00:17:17,579 Tony Shalhoub today is 65 Sean Lennon 309 00:17:27,540 --> 00:17:23,260 today is 43 that's right son of John and 310 00:17:33,810 --> 00:17:27,550 Yoko which takes me to our dead guys 311 00:17:34,740 --> 00:17:33,820 birthday today is John Lennon 1940 to 312 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:34,750 1980 313 00:17:40,470 --> 00:17:37,330 of course died at the age of 40 in New 314 00:17:44,310 --> 00:17:40,480 York City he released Double Fantasy on 315 00:17:47,580 --> 00:17:44,320 November 17th right before his death on 316 00:17:51,450 --> 00:17:47,590 December 8th 1980 the album won a Grammy 317 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:51,460 Award for album of the year and when 318 00:17:57,270 --> 00:17:54,970 that happened I was in high school when 319 00:17:59,340 --> 00:17:57,280 John was shot and killed I was in high 320 00:18:00,540 --> 00:17:59,350 school back in Indianapolis going to 321 00:18:06,770 --> 00:18:00,550 Warren Central High School I was a 322 00:18:09,299 --> 00:18:06,780 senior and snow outside it was it was a 323 00:18:11,130 --> 00:18:09,309 very it was my senior year in high 324 00:18:13,380 --> 00:18:11,140 school you know and and it was just a 325 00:18:18,210 --> 00:18:13,390 very fun Christmas I remember that and 326 00:18:20,070 --> 00:18:18,220 that album and the the hits that were 327 00:18:24,260 --> 00:18:20,080 rolling out were all over the radio 328 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:24,270 right and it was just I think of that 329 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:28,570 that winter right in Indianapolis and 330 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:30,850 you know just like starting over 331 00:18:36,730 --> 00:18:32,010 right 332 00:18:39,620 --> 00:18:36,740 man so anyway I I just came home and 333 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:39,630 walked in my bedroom and and turned out 334 00:18:45,620 --> 00:18:42,690 my little ghetto blaster and got the 335 00:18:49,450 --> 00:18:45,630 news from q95 John Lennon shot and 336 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:49,460 killed today in New York and I've never 337 00:18:56,900 --> 00:18:53,490 never forgotten that tie in for me that 338 00:19:00,470 --> 00:18:56,910 album double fantasy just like starting 339 00:19:03,110 --> 00:19:00,480 over Christmas Indianapolis and John 340 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:03,120 Lennon and q95 man it's just like it's 341 00:19:08,510 --> 00:19:07,290 just bizarre to me but there you go and 342 00:19:10,370 --> 00:19:08,520 it's isn't it 343 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:10,380 you know it's Shawn Lenin's birthday two 344 00:19:16,790 --> 00:19:13,410 very very very cool on this day in 345 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:16,800 history 1992 an 18 year-old Michelle 346 00:19:21,890 --> 00:19:19,890 Knapp is watching television in her 347 00:19:24,650 --> 00:19:21,900 parents living room in Peekskill New 348 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:24,660 York when she hears a thunderous crash 349 00:19:31,430 --> 00:19:28,410 in the driveway now she found a sizeable 350 00:19:34,550 --> 00:19:31,440 hole in the rear end of her car which 351 00:19:37,610 --> 00:19:34,560 was an orange 1980 Chevy Malibu by the 352 00:19:41,060 --> 00:19:37,620 way a matching hole in the gravel 353 00:19:43,910 --> 00:19:41,070 driveway underneath the car and in that 354 00:19:44,750 --> 00:19:43,920 hole what looked like a bowling ball or 355 00:19:47,180 --> 00:19:44,760 a football 356 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:47,190 it was warm to the touch and smelled 357 00:19:53,690 --> 00:19:51,450 like rotten eggs well the next day a 358 00:19:56,350 --> 00:19:53,700 curator from the American Museum of 359 00:19:59,860 --> 00:19:56,360 Natural History in New York City 360 00:20:03,920 --> 00:19:59,870 confirmed that the object was indeed a 361 00:20:09,710 --> 00:20:03,930 meteorite and that happened on this day 362 00:20:12,770 --> 00:20:09,720 in 1992 Fader fact Russian cosmonauts 363 00:20:19,070 --> 00:20:12,780 now remember this is vetted this is a 364 00:20:24,850 --> 00:20:19,080 fact this is a fader fact Russian 365 00:20:28,490 --> 00:20:24,860 cosmonauts used to pack a shotgun in 366 00:20:32,150 --> 00:20:28,500 their space capsule in soyuz in their 367 00:20:37,060 --> 00:20:32,160 space capsule in case they landed in 368 00:20:40,310 --> 00:20:37,070 siberia and had to fend off bears and 369 00:20:43,730 --> 00:20:40,320 that is your fate of it I know you're 370 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:43,740 thinking I'm making it up okay i-i've 371 00:20:47,790 --> 00:20:45,450 got to do a fader Factbook 372 00:20:54,030 --> 00:20:47,800 you know that's it I got to do a fader 373 00:20:57,150 --> 00:20:54,040 fact page page we've done five years 374 00:21:02,430 --> 00:20:57,160 worth of shows we wonder how many fader 375 00:21:04,970 --> 00:21:02,440 facts at it well it would be 930 930 376 00:21:07,230 --> 00:21:04,980 fader facts is that enough for a book 377 00:21:09,900 --> 00:21:07,240 that enough for a book how many on a 378 00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:09,910 page is that enough for a book should I 379 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:12,370 do a book of fader facts yeah I think I 380 00:21:19,410 --> 00:21:17,170 should but I didn't write it I didn't 381 00:21:22,670 --> 00:21:19,420 write the facts I didn't create the 382 00:21:25,710 --> 00:21:22,680 facts but could I do what I need 383 00:21:28,350 --> 00:21:25,720 clearances I have to get everybody's 384 00:21:29,910 --> 00:21:28,360 position permission like the Russian 385 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:29,920 cosmonaut so would I have to get 386 00:21:34,590 --> 00:21:32,770 clearance from Moscow and Putin to put 387 00:21:39,540 --> 00:21:34,600 that in a book I need to talk to a 388 00:21:41,580 --> 00:21:39,550 lawyer yeah tonight is night two of our 389 00:21:44,190 --> 00:21:41,590 Egypt week we have very special guest 390 00:21:46,260 --> 00:21:44,200 Christopher Dunn he is finally here 391 00:21:47,850 --> 00:21:46,270 tomorrow night artist Brad Claussen is 392 00:21:50,430 --> 00:21:47,860 joining the show for the first time 393 00:21:52,500 --> 00:21:50,440 three nights three first-time guest 394 00:21:58,770 --> 00:21:52,510 Thursday is another failure night with 395 00:22:02,790 --> 00:21:58,780 open lines all night long now got to hit 396 00:22:07,830 --> 00:22:02,800 my fade to black blend you know what I 397 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:07,840 did today I actually did this new man of 398 00:22:13,230 --> 00:22:09,330 food storage 399 00:22:15,900 --> 00:22:13,240 they have protein packs so you can get 400 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:15,910 organic chicken right it's dehydrated 401 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:17,410 and then they also have seasoned ground 402 00:22:25,260 --> 00:22:20,890 beef frightened so I decided to try the 403 00:22:33,630 --> 00:22:25,270 ground beef so I made the ground beef at 404 00:22:35,700 --> 00:22:33,640 home and I made nachos it oh why did I 405 00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:35,710 think of that I just thought of that all 406 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:40,870 of a sudden all right anyway our 407 00:22:43,620 --> 00:22:42,010 community 408 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:43,630 y'all is thinking of fade to black pine 409 00:22:46,980 --> 00:22:45,010 that's why I thought of that our 410 00:22:48,780 --> 00:22:46,990 community has some of the brightest 411 00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:48,790 intellectuals guiding us through the 412 00:22:54,170 --> 00:22:51,520 years and it's just an amazing thing 413 00:22:57,660 --> 00:22:54,180 that we have these bright beautiful 414 00:22:58,210 --> 00:22:57,670 researchers and authors and we speak of 415 00:23:00,100 --> 00:22:58,220 that 416 00:23:01,990 --> 00:23:00,110 often here on the show and I'm talking 417 00:23:05,799 --> 00:23:02,000 about you know the top the top into the 418 00:23:08,799 --> 00:23:05,809 tippity-top like Graham Hancock Robert 419 00:23:10,810 --> 00:23:08,809 Bauval Robert Schoch Richard Dolan Linda 420 00:23:16,180 --> 00:23:10,820 Moulton Howe Andrew Collins right 421 00:23:18,970 --> 00:23:16,190 Jacques Vallee erich von daniken and and 422 00:23:22,390 --> 00:23:18,980 of course John Anthony West and Jim 423 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:22,400 Marrs who both recently left this realm 424 00:23:29,350 --> 00:23:25,970 for another but the list is both long 425 00:23:32,710 --> 00:23:29,360 and short depending on how you look at 426 00:23:37,060 --> 00:23:32,720 it but this would I just this is totally 427 00:23:42,850 --> 00:23:37,070 not complete but but you get the idea 428 00:23:46,029 --> 00:23:42,860 right but I just like all of you have 429 00:23:48,850 --> 00:23:46,039 looked towards these shining lights of 430 00:23:51,130 --> 00:23:48,860 knowledge for their next book their next 431 00:23:54,159 --> 00:23:51,140 public appearance you know their next 432 00:23:58,270 --> 00:23:54,169 documentary their next interview the 433 00:24:00,669 --> 00:23:58,280 next gem that nugget right that missing 434 00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:00,679 puzzle piece that we're all looking for 435 00:24:09,820 --> 00:24:06,049 and we all do it we do Christopher Dunn 436 00:24:12,909 --> 00:24:09,830 is also on that list when he's on that 437 00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:12,919 list for so many reasons our community 438 00:24:21,580 --> 00:24:17,600 needs someone like Chris that has that 439 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:21,590 professional background the street cred 440 00:24:29,590 --> 00:24:26,450 the CV that looks at the world with a 441 00:24:31,270 --> 00:24:29,600 different set of eyes so that we too can 442 00:24:36,340 --> 00:24:31,280 look at things just a little bit 443 00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:36,350 differently but when but when you have 444 00:24:41,409 --> 00:24:38,240 that engineering background that Chris 445 00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:41,419 possesses you also get to share the 446 00:24:46,750 --> 00:24:44,110 other side of what is really going on 447 00:24:49,149 --> 00:24:46,760 how things were done how they were made 448 00:24:51,250 --> 00:24:49,159 constructed designed and of course 449 00:24:55,659 --> 00:24:51,260 ultimately you know what they may have 450 00:25:00,070 --> 00:24:55,669 been used for and it could be anything 451 00:25:03,190 --> 00:25:00,080 all things everything if it doesn't grow 452 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:03,200 out of the ground somebody built it 453 00:25:06,730 --> 00:25:04,970 somebody designed it somebody thought 454 00:25:10,350 --> 00:25:06,740 about it it has a purpose it has a 455 00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:10,360 meaning it's used for something 456 00:25:14,370 --> 00:25:12,370 and it doesn't matter right it doesn't 457 00:25:16,740 --> 00:25:14,380 matter if it's a palette to spread 458 00:25:19,470 --> 00:25:16,750 makeup on your feller you know something 459 00:25:21,419 --> 00:25:19,480 to grind third something to to move 460 00:25:23,580 --> 00:25:21,429 something to set out something to build 461 00:25:25,620 --> 00:25:23,590 with it doesn't matter everything that 462 00:25:27,659 --> 00:25:25,630 you look at around you right now look 463 00:25:30,330 --> 00:25:27,669 around the room that you are in if 464 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:30,340 you're in a car look around everything 465 00:25:38,009 --> 00:25:34,210 in there was design built manufactured 466 00:25:43,129 --> 00:25:38,019 for purpose by somebody that's what 467 00:25:47,159 --> 00:25:43,139 Christopher does I have over the years I 468 00:25:50,570 --> 00:25:47,169 have watched I have read I have listened 469 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:50,580 to just about everything he has done 470 00:25:57,090 --> 00:25:54,250 it's the way my brain works I look at 471 00:26:00,120 --> 00:25:57,100 things differently and I I need 472 00:26:02,460 --> 00:26:00,130 different things I like documentaries I 473 00:26:05,399 --> 00:26:02,470 like non-fiction books I like 474 00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:05,409 instruction manuals that's that's that's 475 00:26:11,669 --> 00:26:07,360 you know that's that's the way my brain 476 00:26:14,370 --> 00:26:11,679 works now I need I need that mechanical 477 00:26:18,139 --> 00:26:14,380 that engineering speak I live for that 478 00:26:21,570 --> 00:26:18,149 and although I can appreciate the 479 00:26:24,269 --> 00:26:21,580 esoteric the spiritual the supernatural 480 00:26:27,509 --> 00:26:24,279 take on things and I need that too 481 00:26:30,690 --> 00:26:27,519 there's another side that has to exist 482 00:26:34,409 --> 00:26:30,700 to put it all together to make it all 483 00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:34,419 work and you need to think about things 484 00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:39,130 like that there are when you when you 485 00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:42,130 look at I'll give you a perfect example 486 00:26:49,620 --> 00:26:46,960 of how my brain works I'm at a museum 487 00:26:51,659 --> 00:26:49,630 I'm at the Met in New York with Rita and 488 00:26:53,159 --> 00:26:51,669 we're looking at Egyptian mummies and 489 00:26:55,049 --> 00:26:53,169 we're going down and I'm looking at 490 00:26:58,889 --> 00:26:55,059 these mummies and then below the mummies 491 00:27:00,720 --> 00:26:58,899 are these golden sandals and and they're 492 00:27:02,159 --> 00:27:00,730 beautiful and they're artistic and there 493 00:27:04,590 --> 00:27:02,169 are those that are out there that are 494 00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:04,600 gonna look at it for it it's a aesthetic 495 00:27:09,899 --> 00:27:08,320 value and its beauty and and and you 496 00:27:12,659 --> 00:27:09,909 should write because that's what they 497 00:27:16,889 --> 00:27:12,669 were there for I don't look I look at it 498 00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:16,899 and go how did they make those look how 499 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:19,600 thin the gold is look how its shaped 500 00:27:26,190 --> 00:27:22,330 look at the little beads look at how did 501 00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:26,200 they what how old are these at one for a 502 00:27:32,549 --> 00:27:29,049 thousand years how did they what right 503 00:27:35,940 --> 00:27:32,559 that's the way I look at it and I look 504 00:27:38,820 --> 00:27:35,950 at everything that way everything every 505 00:27:41,370 --> 00:27:38,830 wall every building every piece of 506 00:27:45,629 --> 00:27:41,380 carving and writing and taxed in this I 507 00:27:49,230 --> 00:27:45,639 look at everything that way how did they 508 00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:49,240 do it even today even today I do the 509 00:27:55,830 --> 00:27:52,529 very same thing there are reasons why 510 00:27:57,659 --> 00:27:55,840 everybody that it has taken so long to 511 00:28:00,960 --> 00:27:57,669 finally have mister done on this show 512 00:28:05,940 --> 00:28:00,970 and I'm not going to go into them here 513 00:28:08,700 --> 00:28:05,950 I'm a little embarrassed but I we have 514 00:28:11,850 --> 00:28:08,710 waited long enough and tonight is the 515 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:11,860 night Christopher Dunn is here I'm gonna 516 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:13,690 break away for this quick commercial 517 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:15,370 break and I'll be back with our guest 518 00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:18,850 Christopher Dunn night two of our 519 00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:21,370 fabulous Egypt week here on fade to 520 00:28:25,289 --> 00:28:23,710 black and we're only halfway through it 521 00:28:26,879 --> 00:28:25,299 we're only halfway through 522 00:28:28,950 --> 00:28:26,889 I'm your host Jimmy Church our guest 523 00:28:31,889 --> 00:28:28,960 tonight Christopher Dunn on the 524 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:31,899 GameChanger network and kg are a the 525 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:34,330 planet you can follow me on twitter @ JT 526 00:28:39,869 --> 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613 00:33:42,549 --> 00:33:39,650 am your host Amy Church I'm the game 614 00:33:46,390 --> 00:33:42,559 changer Network inkay GRA the planet you 615 00:33:49,210 --> 00:33:46,400 can follow me on twitter @ JT radio join 616 00:33:55,950 --> 00:33:49,220 the conversation you know there's gonna 617 00:33:58,510 --> 00:33:55,960 be three four thousand tweets tonight 618 00:34:00,220 --> 00:33:58,520 and you need to jump over to hashtag get 619 00:34:02,770 --> 00:34:00,230 to B and join in the conversation it's 620 00:34:05,890 --> 00:34:02,780 an amazing thing to see every night on 621 00:34:08,260 --> 00:34:05,900 the show that many tweets what a great 622 00:34:10,930 --> 00:34:08,270 audience tonight's night two of our 623 00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:10,940 Egypt week here on fade to black 624 00:34:15,399 --> 00:34:13,520 I want to remind everybody tomorrow 625 00:34:16,869 --> 00:34:15,409 night artist Brad Claussen is going to 626 00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:16,879 be joining the show but tonight it's 627 00:34:21,820 --> 00:34:19,310 Christopher Dunn and Chris has worked at 628 00:34:24,070 --> 00:34:21,830 every level of high-tech manufacturing 629 00:34:26,050 --> 00:34:24,080 from machinists tool maker programmer 630 00:34:28,659 --> 00:34:26,060 and operator of high-power industrial 631 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:28,669 lasers project engineer and laser 632 00:34:35,260 --> 00:34:31,970 operations manager Chris's pyramid 633 00:34:38,050 --> 00:34:35,270 Odyssey began in 1977 after he read 634 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:38,060 Peter Tompkins book secrets of the Great 635 00:34:42,609 --> 00:34:40,490 Pyramid his immediate reaction after 636 00:34:44,530 --> 00:34:42,619 learning of the great pyramids precision 637 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:44,540 and design characteristics was to 638 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:47,570 consider that this edifice may have had 639 00:34:53,020 --> 00:34:49,690 an original purpose that differed from 640 00:34:54,970 --> 00:34:53,030 conventional opinion chris concluded 641 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:54,980 that it must have originally been built 642 00:35:01,349 --> 00:34:57,290 to provide a highly technical society 643 00:35:05,290 --> 00:35:01,359 with an energy in short it was a very 644 00:35:06,220 --> 00:35:05,300 large machine now in 1998 the giza 645 00:35:07,930 --> 00:35:06,230 powerplant 646 00:35:10,210 --> 00:35:07,940 technologies of ancient Egypt was 647 00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:10,220 published these of ancient Egypt was 648 00:35:14,890 --> 00:35:13,609 published in 2010 and in this work he 649 00:35:16,990 --> 00:35:14,900 focused on the manufacturing 650 00:35:20,140 --> 00:35:17,000 capabilities of the ancient Egyptians 651 00:35:22,540 --> 00:35:20,150 and the Magisterial characteristics of 652 00:35:25,420 --> 00:35:22,550 Egyptian architectural and manufacturing 653 00:35:27,970 --> 00:35:25,430 wizardry Chris has published over a 654 00:35:30,099 --> 00:35:27,980 dozen magazine articles including the 655 00:35:32,859 --> 00:35:30,109 much quoted advanced machining in 656 00:35:36,340 --> 00:35:32,869 ancient Egypt in analog back in August 657 00:35:38,620 --> 00:35:36,350 1984 and has had his research referenced 658 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:38,630 in over a dozen books on Egypt in the 659 00:35:42,250 --> 00:35:40,490 United States he's appeared on pax 660 00:35:43,660 --> 00:35:42,260 television The History Channel Travel 661 00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:43,670 Channel Discovery Channel The Learning 662 00:35:47,140 --> 00:35:44,240 Channel 663 00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:47,150 lifetime television and now tonight fade 664 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:48,160 to black and I 665 00:35:52,650 --> 00:35:49,890 would like to welcome for the first time 666 00:35:56,130 --> 00:35:52,660 Christopher Dunn Chris good evening how 667 00:35:57,359 --> 00:35:56,140 are you well good evening Jimmy thank 668 00:36:00,779 --> 00:35:57,369 you very much for your invitation 669 00:36:03,359 --> 00:36:00,789 tonight and may I wish you a very happy 670 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:03,369 birthday for tomorrow thank you the 671 00:36:09,809 --> 00:36:07,930 double nickel yeah you know before you 672 00:36:10,970 --> 00:36:09,819 say it you can go ahead and call me 673 00:36:15,529 --> 00:36:10,980 youngster go ahead 674 00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:18,059 exactly exactly 675 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:19,569 let's get the first-time guests 676 00:36:25,049 --> 00:36:22,930 disclaimer out of the way I'm it's an 677 00:36:27,390 --> 00:36:25,059 honor for me to finally do this with you 678 00:36:29,099 --> 00:36:27,400 but Chris it's just you and I sitting on 679 00:36:30,569 --> 00:36:29,109 my couch having a conversation as 680 00:36:32,250 --> 00:36:30,579 friends and where the conversation 681 00:36:34,260 --> 00:36:32,260 starts it starts and where it ends it 682 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:34,270 ends but we're gonna end as friends 683 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:37,690 there you go you ready absolutely now 684 00:36:40,140 --> 00:36:38,770 the next time you're on the show you 685 00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:40,150 don't get the first-time guests 686 00:36:51,390 --> 00:36:42,609 disclaimer you can't even ask for it 687 00:36:54,450 --> 00:36:51,400 okay so I'm that it's you know it's been 688 00:36:56,430 --> 00:36:54,460 a long time coming I am glad that we 689 00:36:59,730 --> 00:36:56,440 finally have the opportunity to sit down 690 00:37:03,120 --> 00:36:59,740 and chat and I don't know if you heard 691 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:03,130 my opening remarks but I like so many 692 00:37:09,870 --> 00:37:07,450 others in our community have followed 693 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:09,880 you and researched you over the years 694 00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:13,690 and I want to out of the gate on behalf 695 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:16,480 of our community and everybody here at 696 00:37:22,980 --> 00:37:18,970 fade to black I want to thank you for 697 00:37:25,230 --> 00:37:22,990 your tenacity for your research for your 698 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:25,240 dedication and for everything that you 699 00:37:30,930 --> 00:37:28,690 have done for us thank you sir okay well 700 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:30,940 thank you very much I mean it has been 701 00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:34,690 my pleasure my honor to to be able to 702 00:37:41,130 --> 00:37:38,529 contribute in some way now that I want 703 00:37:42,599 --> 00:37:41,140 to do this first and I kind of warned 704 00:37:44,690 --> 00:37:42,609 you about this I'm going to get the 705 00:37:48,359 --> 00:37:44,700 fanboys stuff out of the way I'll be 706 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:48,369 I'll be objective I'll be objective for 707 00:37:54,210 --> 00:37:49,690 the rest of the show okay I'll be 708 00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:54,220 professional but there for you because I 709 00:38:01,710 --> 00:37:58,450 have a design background so I went 710 00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:01,720 through all of the big corporations and 711 00:38:07,380 --> 00:38:04,960 and I know what that's like to be in a 712 00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:07,390 professional engineering setting so I 713 00:38:11,460 --> 00:38:09,310 tend to look at life like that it's 714 00:38:14,370 --> 00:38:11,470 really influenced me a lot I look at the 715 00:38:16,730 --> 00:38:14,380 industrial design and and and just I 716 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:16,740 look at everything that way first and 717 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:20,490 you have that same type of background 718 00:38:28,590 --> 00:38:25,210 but you also give us that in our 719 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:28,600 community but through your professional 720 00:38:34,890 --> 00:38:31,690 career leading up to 1977 did you have 721 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:34,900 an interest was there any did you know 722 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:38,290 what Egypt was about the ufology or 723 00:38:44,580 --> 00:38:40,930 ancient astronaut any of that stuff did 724 00:38:49,860 --> 00:38:44,590 you have any interest at all oh yes I 725 00:38:52,370 --> 00:38:49,870 had a huge interest in Egypt in fact my 726 00:38:54,780 --> 00:38:52,380 sister is married to an Egyptian and 727 00:38:59,120 --> 00:38:54,790 it's always fascinated me 728 00:39:03,360 --> 00:38:59,130 Egypt and and the group that I used to 729 00:39:06,090 --> 00:39:03,370 enjoy in every Friday night talk about 730 00:39:08,310 --> 00:39:06,100 philosophy generally Egypt and the 731 00:39:11,730 --> 00:39:08,320 pyramids was a topic of conversation so 732 00:39:13,260 --> 00:39:11,740 right that was it's always been a huge 733 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:13,270 fascination for me and then of course 734 00:39:19,620 --> 00:39:16,810 the you know the the books that were 735 00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:19,630 published back in the early seventies 736 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:23,110 sixties I think one of the first books 737 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:26,050 that I bought was the morning of the 738 00:39:33,260 --> 00:39:29,290 magician's my pals and Bercy and that 739 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:33,270 was a remarkable book that I absolutely 740 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:38,050 devoured and it opened up you know in my 741 00:39:43,290 --> 00:39:41,290 mind the the disconnect between what 742 00:39:48,870 --> 00:39:43,300 we're taught in school which is really 743 00:39:51,900 --> 00:39:48,880 very light and then having gay a verse 744 00:39:54,780 --> 00:39:51,910 to put in front of you that describes a 745 00:39:57,350 --> 00:39:54,790 more remarkable civilization and 746 00:40:02,040 --> 00:39:57,360 something that was going on in the past 747 00:40:07,170 --> 00:40:02,050 that is a part of our our history that 748 00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:07,180 we had not been advised of and so you 749 00:40:13,900 --> 00:40:09,250 know it starts out where you feel like 750 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:13,910 you have been shortchanged a little bit 751 00:40:22,290 --> 00:40:18,290 and but then at the same time you begin 752 00:40:27,550 --> 00:40:22,300 to look at how how this particular 753 00:40:29,710 --> 00:40:27,560 movement grew over time and and then 754 00:40:33,010 --> 00:40:29,720 during that time as you mentioned in 755 00:40:34,810 --> 00:40:33,020 your introduction in 1977 there was a 756 00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:34,820 buck it was on the bookshelf it was a 757 00:40:42,490 --> 00:40:37,760 kind of a what I would call a renegade 758 00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:42,500 box box law where they had all these you 759 00:40:48,430 --> 00:40:45,680 know strange titles like secrets of the 760 00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:48,440 Great Pyramid by Peter Tomkinson but 761 00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:52,880 that but that book was it kind of jumped 762 00:40:57,370 --> 00:40:55,280 off the shelf at me and so I made the 763 00:41:00,490 --> 00:40:57,380 purchase and took it home and it's a 764 00:41:04,270 --> 00:41:00,500 absolutely remarkable book and it's 765 00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:04,280 opened my mind to a lot of other 766 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:07,280 researchers you know when you go when 767 00:41:11,890 --> 00:41:09,290 you go through the history of research 768 00:41:16,770 --> 00:41:11,900 in the Great Pyramid and you know you 769 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:16,780 learn about Davidson and how advise and 770 00:41:23,890 --> 00:41:21,290 William Flinders Petrie right yeah it's 771 00:41:26,260 --> 00:41:23,900 a remarkable remarkable body of work 772 00:41:30,220 --> 00:41:26,270 that has been generated for over a 773 00:41:33,210 --> 00:41:30,230 hundred years and so people were asking 774 00:41:37,510 --> 00:41:33,220 the same questions that we are asking 775 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:37,520 more back in the 1700s they worried 776 00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:41,690 isn't that a fascinating aspect out of 777 00:41:47,070 --> 00:41:44,480 all of this whether it's de Lubitz or or 778 00:41:52,510 --> 00:41:47,080 or Tompkins 779 00:41:54,820 --> 00:41:52,520 Maral at everybody even the fringe right 780 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:54,830 even the French they were asking the 781 00:41:59,890 --> 00:41:57,890 same questions that we are asking today 782 00:42:03,060 --> 00:41:59,900 they approached GISA 783 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:03,070 and in Egypt and looked around and just 784 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:07,850 what it what right they all asked the 785 00:42:13,770 --> 00:42:09,770 very very same questions and we're still 786 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:13,780 chasing it still chasing it yes and that 787 00:42:19,930 --> 00:42:16,130 just scratching the surface really 788 00:42:22,090 --> 00:42:19,940 because what we what we are left with is 789 00:42:25,780 --> 00:42:22,100 just the skeleton of an ancient 790 00:42:29,050 --> 00:42:25,790 civilization and that skeleton as 791 00:42:32,770 --> 00:42:29,060 made up of highly precise granite and 792 00:42:36,610 --> 00:42:32,780 limestone and diorite blocks and and so 793 00:42:39,310 --> 00:42:36,620 actually trying to determine what kind 794 00:42:42,730 --> 00:42:39,320 of what the intelligence was behind it 795 00:42:45,610 --> 00:42:42,740 about the mother flesh and blood and the 796 00:42:49,060 --> 00:42:45,620 clothing looked like that would actually 797 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:49,070 overlay this civilization or overlay 798 00:42:53,950 --> 00:42:51,650 this skeleton of a civilization that's 799 00:42:56,260 --> 00:42:53,960 it's always a huge interest to me 800 00:42:59,980 --> 00:42:56,270 because when you look at say the Great 801 00:43:01,810 --> 00:42:59,990 Pyramid and and the precision of the 802 00:43:06,190 --> 00:43:01,820 Great Pyramid and I think you talked a 803 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:06,200 little bit about that to my new last 804 00:43:11,290 --> 00:43:07,970 night and that was a really fascinating 805 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:11,300 discussion for me because he touched it 806 00:43:18,850 --> 00:43:15,410 just hit me on so many so many nerve 807 00:43:22,140 --> 00:43:18,860 points that discussion because it was 808 00:43:26,410 --> 00:43:22,150 the precision that that spoke to me and 809 00:43:31,780 --> 00:43:26,420 and then the contribution that will 810 00:43:36,670 --> 00:43:31,790 influence Petrie made to to this 811 00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:36,680 discussion back in the 1880s is 812 00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:40,250 unparalleled anywhere because he he'd 813 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:43,520 was a a a practical guy like yourself 814 00:43:54,730 --> 00:43:49,930 like me mm and and he has his learning 815 00:43:57,580 --> 00:43:54,740 of of the monuments was through taking 816 00:44:01,810 --> 00:43:57,590 measurements and of course his father 817 00:44:06,370 --> 00:44:01,820 was an engineer he was a self-educated 818 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:06,380 surveyor and so he he had a technical 819 00:44:11,230 --> 00:44:08,210 background and he applied it when he 820 00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:11,240 went to Egypt and actually uncovered 821 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:15,110 some remarkable features I mean if you 822 00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:17,690 talk about precision and you know he the 823 00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:19,310 pyramid has always been a huge 824 00:44:26,650 --> 00:44:22,480 fascination for people but we have to 825 00:44:29,710 --> 00:44:26,660 consider that you have a structure where 826 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:29,720 they chose they thought it was necessary 827 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:35,090 to construct a downward shaft or 828 00:44:38,650 --> 00:44:37,490 passageway called the descending passage 829 00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:38,660 and over 830 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:43,250 50 feet of this passageway it was in 831 00:44:49,870 --> 00:44:45,890 alignment within 20 thousandths of an 832 00:44:53,860 --> 00:44:49,880 inch slip years which is a the thickness 833 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:53,870 of a thumbnail of being absolutely 834 00:44:58,240 --> 00:44:55,850 straight and and then of course his 835 00:45:00,850 --> 00:44:58,250 measurements of the the remaining casing 836 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:00,860 blocks they were manufactured to within 837 00:45:06,310 --> 00:45:03,290 ten thousandths of an inch half the 838 00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:06,320 thickness of a thumbnail and all of 839 00:45:16,540 --> 00:45:12,250 these kind of markers spoke to me that 840 00:45:18,370 --> 00:45:16,550 the the builders of the pyramids whether 841 00:45:21,670 --> 00:45:18,380 they were the ancient Egyptians or an 842 00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:21,680 earlier civilization they they would 843 00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:26,480 have actually and demonstrating that the 844 00:45:32,020 --> 00:45:28,730 state of the hour that they had at that 845 00:45:35,260 --> 00:45:32,030 time they had that capability this was 846 00:45:38,590 --> 00:45:35,270 this was not a a coincident 847 00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:38,600 a coincidence and what the in what they 848 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:40,910 created with the Great Pyramid and a lot 849 00:45:46,420 --> 00:45:44,090 of other artifacts and in Egypt to take 850 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:46,430 me to that moment if you will Chris 851 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:50,930 where you're you're in your professional 852 00:45:55,720 --> 00:45:53,810 life you know life is good take me to 853 00:45:58,810 --> 00:45:55,730 that moment where you just went you know 854 00:46:00,880 --> 00:45:58,820 what enough is enough that you know what 855 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:00,890 was that moment where he just okay I'm 856 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:05,330 gonna dedicate a huge portion of my life 857 00:46:10,660 --> 00:46:08,330 in my future to to getting to the bottom 858 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:10,670 of this there was a moment where you 859 00:46:13,030 --> 00:46:12,650 just made that left-hand turn what was 860 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:13,040 it 861 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:15,770 there's actually several moments one of 862 00:46:21,730 --> 00:46:17,530 them I woke up early in the morning 863 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:21,740 there was a Sunday morning and and I had 864 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:24,530 a vision of the the pyramid with the 865 00:46:29,230 --> 00:46:26,690 chefs and it seemed like there was 866 00:46:31,540 --> 00:46:29,240 energy streaming out of the out of these 867 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:31,550 that these shafts inside the Great 868 00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:33,650 Pyramid and then the hieroglyphs that 869 00:46:39,970 --> 00:46:37,730 were kind of written on the side of it 870 00:46:43,620 --> 00:46:39,980 it was all in like four fluorescent 871 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:43,630 green so you know that was a remarkable 872 00:46:51,700 --> 00:46:47,450 wild moment for me and then the the next 873 00:46:56,020 --> 00:46:51,710 one came but when I was immersed and in 874 00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:56,030 in Tompkins book and it just struck me 875 00:47:02,920 --> 00:46:58,130 like oh look the light bulb went off 876 00:47:05,109 --> 00:47:02,930 over my head that energy was actually 877 00:47:08,859 --> 00:47:05,119 coming through the pyramid and being 878 00:47:13,750 --> 00:47:08,869 channeled to the outside and that energy 879 00:47:14,859 --> 00:47:13,760 was coming from the earth and and so at 880 00:47:20,490 --> 00:47:14,869 that moment 881 00:47:24,490 --> 00:47:20,500 I was I was just in I entered a space 882 00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:24,500 that so I'd surrounded me for decades 883 00:47:33,099 --> 00:47:29,569 and after that as I tried to determine 884 00:47:35,470 --> 00:47:33,109 just exactly what what this machine was 885 00:47:41,799 --> 00:47:35,480 doing because ultimately the you know 886 00:47:44,770 --> 00:47:41,809 the how successful you are in in your 887 00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:44,780 research it depends on what kind of a 888 00:47:50,500 --> 00:47:47,569 foundation you base your research on and 889 00:47:53,380 --> 00:47:50,510 that is basically a kind of it your 890 00:47:56,890 --> 00:47:53,390 ideology if you will or your your belief 891 00:48:00,460 --> 00:47:56,900 and I was convinced that what we had 892 00:48:03,700 --> 00:48:00,470 here was a structure that was built to 893 00:48:07,180 --> 00:48:03,710 the with the precision of a machine only 894 00:48:09,940 --> 00:48:07,190 on a scale of acres and and to 895 00:48:11,980 --> 00:48:09,950 illustrate that if you take like the 896 00:48:15,730 --> 00:48:11,990 side one side of the Great Pyramid which 897 00:48:21,130 --> 00:48:15,740 i think is about 755 feet you have and 898 00:48:25,780 --> 00:48:21,140 then say you scale that down to the size 899 00:48:28,900 --> 00:48:25,790 of a machine and perhaps you're laying 900 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:28,910 down a machine base and the and you want 901 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:32,210 to make a precision base if you have a 902 00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:36,770 machine base of about 20 feet and you 903 00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:41,440 want to build the same precision 904 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:43,730 proportionally that you see in the Great 905 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:46,130 Pyramid that machine base would have to 906 00:48:54,730 --> 00:48:50,450 be flat within like two ten thousandths 907 00:48:58,720 --> 00:48:54,740 of an inch that is point a zero zero 908 00:49:00,880 --> 00:48:58,730 zero - that's insane it's insane as you 909 00:49:04,020 --> 00:49:00,890 say yeah and that's that is not work 910 00:49:06,660 --> 00:49:04,030 that is not required on 911 00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:06,670 machine basis today generally they have 912 00:49:13,170 --> 00:49:09,730 specifications where depending on the 913 00:49:15,900 --> 00:49:13,180 use of the machine the requirements may 914 00:49:21,630 --> 00:49:15,910 be like two ten thousandths of an inch 915 00:49:24,180 --> 00:49:21,640 per foot not over 20 feet and so you 916 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:24,190 know the great parameter this way talk 917 00:49:28,230 --> 00:49:26,170 about it all the time 918 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:28,240 was leveled within seven eighths of an 919 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:31,810 inch over thirteen anchors and so that 920 00:49:37,530 --> 00:49:34,690 that makes a guy like me guy like you 921 00:49:41,070 --> 00:49:37,540 and a lot of others just set up and take 922 00:49:44,310 --> 00:49:41,080 notice because it's it's like wow why 923 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:44,320 were they doing it does that's right it 924 00:49:50,430 --> 00:49:46,810 doesn't make any sense and you brought 925 00:49:52,530 --> 00:49:50,440 up one of the things that I I bring it 926 00:49:55,590 --> 00:49:52,540 up over and over again Chris because I 927 00:49:58,530 --> 00:49:55,600 want this audience to really firmly 928 00:50:02,790 --> 00:49:58,540 understand and grasp what is going on 929 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:02,800 here and you can talk about the pyramid 930 00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:04,810 and look at it and and the layers and 931 00:50:07,950 --> 00:50:05,920 the steps and two and half million 932 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:07,960 blocks you could talk the Grand Gallery 933 00:50:17,180 --> 00:50:11,850 go go for it but it's that that 934 00:50:23,070 --> 00:50:17,190 ascending passageway that that which was 935 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:23,080 either built first or or as the pyramid 936 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:25,810 was being construction constructed that 937 00:50:33,210 --> 00:50:28,690 part doesn't matter what matters is it 938 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:33,220 was through 150 to 200 feet of solid 939 00:50:39,890 --> 00:50:36,730 rock utterly perfectly straight and 940 00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:39,900 square that would require precision 941 00:50:45,810 --> 00:50:42,910 instruments that even today we would 942 00:50:47,310 --> 00:50:45,820 struggle with and we probably wouldn't 943 00:50:51,690 --> 00:50:47,320 even do it because it wouldn't be 944 00:50:55,050 --> 00:50:51,700 necessary for anything and and that that 945 00:50:58,880 --> 00:50:55,060 needs to be realized and it gets lost in 946 00:51:02,580 --> 00:50:58,890 the translation yes I think from a a 947 00:51:05,330 --> 00:51:02,590 construction perspective you those kind 948 00:51:06,740 --> 00:51:05,340 of tolerances are unnecessary for 949 00:51:09,930 --> 00:51:06,750 [Music] 950 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:09,940 precision instruments then you you would 951 00:51:16,070 --> 00:51:14,130 find them necessary and and so 952 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:16,080 essentially what 953 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:18,970 there are like two two conditions maybe 954 00:51:24,780 --> 00:51:22,090 three that govern how you actually 955 00:51:29,370 --> 00:51:24,790 manufacture something and what the 956 00:51:34,950 --> 00:51:29,380 results of the work now one is something 957 00:51:38,070 --> 00:51:34,960 is so important that you if you don't 958 00:51:42,300 --> 00:51:38,080 have machines to actually create those 959 00:51:44,490 --> 00:51:42,310 very precise surfaces you still have to 960 00:51:48,510 --> 00:51:44,500 create them anyway because of the 961 00:51:51,860 --> 00:51:48,520 importance of the of the artifact the 962 00:51:54,540 --> 00:51:51,870 other condition that would exist is that 963 00:51:59,270 --> 00:51:54,550 the machines that you have and are 964 00:52:03,690 --> 00:51:59,280 applying to create these artifacts a 965 00:52:08,460 --> 00:52:03,700 capable of no less precision and and 966 00:52:12,450 --> 00:52:08,470 that is what we have found today over 967 00:52:14,910 --> 00:52:12,460 the the life of manufacturing 968 00:52:18,420 --> 00:52:14,920 development since the Industrial 969 00:52:21,930 --> 00:52:18,430 Revolution where the machines today are 970 00:52:24,150 --> 00:52:21,940 capable of greater precision that even 971 00:52:26,490 --> 00:52:24,160 those parts of a product that you are 972 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:26,500 manufacturing but don't require the 973 00:52:31,110 --> 00:52:28,930 precision have that precision anyway 974 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:31,120 because the machine is capable of 975 00:52:37,890 --> 00:52:35,050 nothing less you want it but oh I'm 976 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:37,900 sorry did I interrupt no I was just what 977 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:40,810 does that make sense yeah exactly and 978 00:52:46,260 --> 00:52:43,450 you what are the things that I've always 979 00:52:50,130 --> 00:52:46,270 appreciated about you is you you walk 980 00:52:52,380 --> 00:52:50,140 around with a machinist square and a 981 00:52:55,650 --> 00:52:52,390 level and a laser in your pocket if I 982 00:52:57,150 --> 00:52:55,660 could just like Indiana Jones right you 983 00:52:59,880 --> 00:52:57,160 know you're whipping it out all the time 984 00:53:02,760 --> 00:52:59,890 and and checking these things and 985 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:02,770 because yours is as amazed as as 986 00:53:07,170 --> 00:53:05,530 everybody else but that's the way you 987 00:53:10,310 --> 00:53:07,180 look at it and now we're gonna head 988 00:53:14,340 --> 00:53:10,320 towards a break i but i want to ask you 989 00:53:16,190 --> 00:53:14,350 one basic question that that needs to be 990 00:53:19,110 --> 00:53:16,200 addressed at least for me personally 991 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:19,120 when we look at like the walls in the 992 00:53:26,140 --> 00:53:23,490 descending passageway or the surfaces of 993 00:53:31,100 --> 00:53:26,150 of different blocks and construction and 994 00:53:35,690 --> 00:53:31,110 walls where they are utterly flat and 995 00:53:40,910 --> 00:53:35,700 when we are told that they used round 996 00:53:45,410 --> 00:53:40,920 stone ball hammers right and and copper 997 00:53:49,940 --> 00:53:45,420 chisels and chicken bones that yeah 998 00:53:54,350 --> 00:53:49,950 right that how how do you get a billiard 999 00:53:59,270 --> 00:53:54,360 table smooth tabletop with those kinds 1000 00:54:01,490 --> 00:53:59,280 of instruments I I don't understand what 1001 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:01,500 they are trying to convince me of I I 1002 00:54:07,359 --> 00:54:03,410 just don't see it 1003 00:54:10,820 --> 00:54:07,369 well the descending passage the 1004 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:10,830 excavated portion where they actually 1005 00:54:18,770 --> 00:54:15,770 cut the the bedrock out the surfaces are 1006 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:18,780 straight but they're not necessarily 1007 00:54:26,180 --> 00:54:22,410 that precise in terms of smoothness of 1008 00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:26,190 finish in fact they're pretty rough 1009 00:54:33,380 --> 00:54:28,710 now the constructed portion where they 1010 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:33,390 laid blade blocks of limestone to to 1011 00:54:39,730 --> 00:54:36,930 build the descending passage and all the 1012 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:39,740 other passages and internal changes 1013 00:54:49,359 --> 00:54:43,970 those are more precise and and flatter 1014 00:54:55,180 --> 00:54:49,369 and smoother than the excavated portion 1015 00:54:57,500 --> 00:54:55,190 so as far as as far as the the 1016 00:55:00,800 --> 00:54:57,510 construction of the descending passage 1017 00:55:04,570 --> 00:55:00,810 it it hadn't had a particular function 1018 00:55:07,130 --> 00:55:04,580 but it didn't have they didn't have the 1019 00:55:10,250 --> 00:55:07,140 requirements of a like a smooth billiard 1020 00:55:12,590 --> 00:55:10,260 table or an inspection and table that 1021 00:55:16,060 --> 00:55:12,600 you would find in a an inspection 1022 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:16,070 department in a manufacturing plant but 1023 00:55:19,849 --> 00:55:18,810 but I know you understand where I'm 1024 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:19,859 going with this 1025 00:55:24,590 --> 00:55:22,050 when you look at and I'm just talking 1026 00:55:28,010 --> 00:55:24,600 about point your finger in a direction 1027 00:55:29,460 --> 00:55:28,020 and you're gonna see something that you 1028 00:55:33,630 --> 00:55:29,470 know 1029 00:55:36,359 --> 00:55:33,640 that has these smooth finishes and and 1030 00:55:37,140 --> 00:55:36,369 you don't pound your way to a smooth 1031 00:55:41,220 --> 00:55:37,150 finish 1032 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:41,230 you know the obelisk the the granite 1033 00:55:46,349 --> 00:55:43,450 blocks that are lining the walls are the 1034 00:55:49,410 --> 00:55:46,359 King's Chamber or even you know Ramses 1035 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:49,420 the statues what it doesn't is those 1036 00:55:55,589 --> 00:55:53,170 weren't done with with stone hammers 1037 00:55:57,750 --> 00:55:55,599 they just weren't you're not leveling 1038 00:55:59,820 --> 00:55:57,760 and and smoothing and rounding these 1039 00:56:00,870 --> 00:55:59,830 surfaces with those it's it's as an 1040 00:56:04,500 --> 00:56:00,880 impossibility 1041 00:56:08,370 --> 00:56:04,510 no absolutely not but there are there 1042 00:56:11,339 --> 00:56:08,380 are examples on my website that your 1043 00:56:15,210 --> 00:56:11,349 listeners too can go and look at if they 1044 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:15,220 go to Giza power calm and go to the 1045 00:56:24,060 --> 00:56:19,210 articles page there's one there is 1046 00:56:26,940 --> 00:56:24,070 called the machine granite of ancient 1047 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:26,950 Egypt it's an article in there and if 1048 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:31,570 you scroll down on that page you go down 1049 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:38,010 to a place where I'm in the Seraphim and 1050 00:56:47,130 --> 00:56:44,770 it's exhibit 27 and you see me inside 1051 00:56:50,609 --> 00:56:47,140 one of the boxes in the Serra p.m. and 1052 00:56:55,230 --> 00:56:50,619 I'm using a square it's a toolmaker 1053 00:56:59,490 --> 00:56:55,240 square that was as precise within 110 1054 00:57:03,990 --> 00:56:59,500 thousandths of an inch so you know a lot 1055 00:57:06,349 --> 00:57:04,000 of the conversation about that crafting 1056 00:57:09,570 --> 00:57:06,359 these artifacts in Egypt 1057 00:57:12,540 --> 00:57:09,580 revolves around the cutting tools and 1058 00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:12,550 what kind of cutting tools they used and 1059 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:16,960 of course my argument has been that the 1060 00:57:22,290 --> 00:57:19,330 tools really don't exist in the 1061 00:57:24,810 --> 00:57:22,300 archaeological record to explain them 1062 00:57:28,650 --> 00:57:24,820 ground they were incapable of doing so 1063 00:57:32,190 --> 00:57:28,660 but also lacking in the archaeological 1064 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:32,200 record the inspection instruments 1065 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:37,210 necessary to check these surfaces and 1066 00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:40,210 the geometries of them to make sure that 1067 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:42,910 they are indeed too 1068 00:57:49,620 --> 00:57:46,690 to specifications flat and straight flat 1069 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:49,630 and straight square and square so you 1070 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:53,890 have end on that exhibit 26 of the left 1071 00:57:59,130 --> 00:57:56,170 hand left hand side you see me holding 1072 00:58:02,819 --> 00:57:59,140 that square up against the underside of 1073 00:58:05,730 --> 00:58:02,829 the lid right right and you see the 1074 00:58:08,279 --> 00:58:05,740 reflection in the granite yes you know 1075 00:58:10,230 --> 00:58:08,289 there's no aberrations in that 1076 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:10,240 reflection and you see that it's dead 1077 00:58:15,630 --> 00:58:12,730 square now you go across to the other 1078 00:58:18,630 --> 00:58:15,640 photograph on the right and it's the 1079 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:18,640 opposite wall and the same thing is 1080 00:58:23,700 --> 00:58:20,770 pressed up against the underside of the 1081 00:58:29,069 --> 00:58:23,710 the granite lid and down the surface of 1082 00:58:33,630 --> 00:58:29,079 the inside wall so this this actually 1083 00:58:35,730 --> 00:58:33,640 tells us volumes about what what they 1084 00:58:39,020 --> 00:58:35,740 were trying to accomplish because in 1085 00:58:42,450 --> 00:58:39,030 order for those conditions to exist 1086 00:58:46,770 --> 00:58:42,460 those two walls opposite each other by 1087 00:58:50,250 --> 00:58:46,780 around six feet or something like that 1088 00:58:52,710 --> 00:58:50,260 across they would have to be perfectly 1089 00:58:56,039 --> 00:58:52,720 parallel with each other in order for 1090 00:58:58,049 --> 00:58:56,049 that condition to exist look we need to 1091 00:59:00,269 --> 00:58:58,059 take a break right here Chris will pick 1092 00:59:01,859 --> 00:59:00,279 up right where we're leaving off when we 1093 00:59:04,349 --> 00:59:01,869 come back our guest tonight Christopher 1094 00:59:06,269 --> 00:59:04,359 Dunn night two of our Egypt week here on 1095 00:59:08,190 --> 00:59:06,279 fade to black it's going to be one of 1096 00:59:09,450 --> 00:59:08,200 those conversations buckle up everybody 1097 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:09,460 it's going to be amazing 1098 00:59:13,980 --> 00:59:11,410 this is fade to black I'm your host 1099 00:59:16,380 --> 00:59:13,990 Jimmy Church on the game changed your 1100 00:59:18,150 --> 00:59:16,390 network and kg are a the planet our 1101 00:59:19,740 --> 00:59:18,160 guest Christopher Dodd more with Chris 1102 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:19,750 right 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01:03:44,359 --> 01:03:42,749 listening to jimmy church on fade to 1186 01:03:46,430 --> 01:03:44,369 black across the globe on the 1187 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:46,440 game-changer radio network and the one 1188 01:03:53,420 --> 01:03:49,410 and only kgr a radio the planet 1189 01:03:53,740 --> 01:03:53,430 [Music] 1190 01:04:04,820 --> 01:03:53,750 [Applause] 1191 01:04:04,830 --> 01:04:09,100 [Music] 1192 01:04:12,940 --> 01:04:11,530 all right welcome back fade to black I'm 1193 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:12,950 gonna go see my church I guess tonight 1194 01:04:18,730 --> 01:04:15,530 Christopher done yes he is finally here 1195 01:04:21,850 --> 01:04:18,740 it's night two of our Egypt week and 1196 01:04:26,620 --> 01:04:21,860 fade to black and before the break we 1197 01:04:29,860 --> 01:04:26,630 were talking about these black granite 1198 01:04:32,670 --> 01:04:29,870 sarcophagus and the pictures a Chris of 1199 01:04:36,100 --> 01:04:32,680 you that have been posted up on Twitter 1200 01:04:39,910 --> 01:04:36,110 with the toolmaker square just 1201 01:04:43,540 --> 01:04:39,920 absolutely epic it's just the best but I 1202 01:04:45,130 --> 01:04:43,550 wanted to make a quick comment a couple 1203 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:45,140 of years ago I'm in New York and we go 1204 01:04:51,550 --> 01:04:48,130 to the met Reid and I and they had a 1205 01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:51,560 black granite sarcophagus there and it 1206 01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:54,530 was dated 2500 BC and I don't know how 1207 01:04:59,350 --> 01:04:56,450 many tons at Wade you know it's 1208 01:05:02,290 --> 01:04:59,360 ginormous you know probably 5 foot 6 1209 01:05:05,020 --> 01:05:02,300 foot by 10 foot you know 5 foot high you 1210 01:05:07,750 --> 01:05:05,030 know giant box and I go up and and what 1211 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:07,760 most don't realize if you've never had 1212 01:05:14,350 --> 01:05:11,210 this experience that you have had you go 1213 01:05:17,530 --> 01:05:14,360 up and you touch it the sarcophagus you 1214 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:17,540 knock on it and you realize how cold it 1215 01:05:23,380 --> 01:05:20,930 is to the touch how dense it is how hard 1216 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:23,390 it is and then you look at the 1217 01:05:27,730 --> 01:05:25,490 inscriptions and you back up and you 1218 01:05:30,670 --> 01:05:27,740 just cover that it's impossible and 1219 01:05:32,410 --> 01:05:30,680 right after that read and I walk over to 1220 01:05:37,300 --> 01:05:32,420 this display case and they had a little 1221 01:05:39,940 --> 01:05:37,310 Stella it was about 2 3 feet tall with 1222 01:05:42,550 --> 01:05:39,950 the beautiful hieroglyphics on it and in 1223 01:05:46,090 --> 01:05:42,560 the date again you know 2000 2500 BC and 1224 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:46,100 next to the Stella they actually had the 1225 01:05:52,990 --> 01:05:50,570 audacity had them had to say and these 1226 01:05:54,790 --> 01:05:53,000 are the tools that were used to inscribe 1227 01:05:57,700 --> 01:05:54,800 the Stella and you look down and it's 1228 01:06:03,280 --> 01:05:57,710 like this little copper pick little tiny 1229 01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:03,290 pick and a stone a stone and and these 1230 01:06:07,990 --> 01:06:05,210 are the tools and I'm looking about so I 1231 01:06:10,810 --> 01:06:08,000 immediately called John Anthony West I 1232 01:06:13,890 --> 01:06:10,820 got them on the phone and I said you 1233 01:06:18,450 --> 01:06:13,900 know I'm looking at this stuff John and 1234 01:06:21,029 --> 01:06:18,460 you know and to hear him laugh with me 1235 01:06:24,269 --> 01:06:21,039 as we were talking about these things 1236 01:06:27,450 --> 01:06:24,279 about it just being impossible and it's 1237 01:06:33,660 --> 01:06:27,460 truly the case you need to actually see 1238 01:06:36,450 --> 01:06:33,670 one of these megalithic sarcophagus or 1239 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:36,460 you know and feel what black granite and 1240 01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:39,970 red granite feels like and how dense it 1241 01:06:45,510 --> 01:06:42,730 is to understand that we're getting into 1242 01:06:47,970 --> 01:06:45,520 the realm of being just impossible to do 1243 01:06:51,690 --> 01:06:47,980 with the tools that they are telling us 1244 01:06:53,730 --> 01:06:51,700 they did it with no absolutely my first 1245 01:06:56,519 --> 01:06:53,740 experience of that is rather amusing 1246 01:07:01,260 --> 01:06:56,529 actually it was the first time that I 1247 01:07:03,210 --> 01:07:01,270 traveled to Egypt in 1986 and my article 1248 01:07:07,289 --> 01:07:03,220 advanced machining in ancient Egypt was 1249 01:07:11,970 --> 01:07:07,299 published in 1984 so I threw a few 1250 01:07:18,359 --> 01:07:11,980 copies in in my in my bag and I went to 1251 01:07:20,569 --> 01:07:18,369 the Museum in Cairo and and I talked to 1252 01:07:26,700 --> 01:07:20,579 one of the one of the curators there and 1253 01:07:29,519 --> 01:07:26,710 I gave him a copy of the article and so 1254 01:07:32,130 --> 01:07:29,529 I thought yeah well maybe be interested 1255 01:07:35,069 --> 01:07:32,140 in reading it he looked at it and you 1256 01:07:37,769 --> 01:07:35,079 know his sniff station he sniffed his 1257 01:07:39,900 --> 01:07:37,779 nose up he returned his nose up opened 1258 01:07:42,529 --> 01:07:39,910 the drawer in his desk and just flung it 1259 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:42,539 in the desk it said thank you and then 1260 01:07:47,940 --> 01:07:44,890 what are the idiot ologists that was 1261 01:07:51,289 --> 01:07:47,950 roaming the museum i I was talking to 1262 01:07:54,059 --> 01:07:51,299 him I said well you know you have these 1263 01:07:57,569 --> 01:07:54,069 unbelievable monuments out on the Giza 1264 01:07:59,579 --> 01:07:57,579 Plateau what about the tools that were 1265 01:08:02,220 --> 01:07:59,589 used to create them and he says oh no 1266 01:08:04,620 --> 01:08:02,230 problem I can show you those and AE 1267 01:08:08,490 --> 01:08:04,630 tucker tucker's upstairs in the Cairo 1268 01:08:11,460 --> 01:08:08,500 Museum and and it - a tool case and 1269 01:08:14,309 --> 01:08:11,470 there in the tool case just exactly what 1270 01:08:17,820 --> 01:08:14,319 you described some copper picks copper 1271 01:08:21,660 --> 01:08:17,830 chisels and and I said it is this all 1272 01:08:24,419 --> 01:08:21,670 you have I mean that is not possible 1273 01:08:27,059 --> 01:08:24,429 what about cutting granite he says oh he 1274 01:08:29,460 --> 01:08:27,069 said you need to go to 1275 01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:29,470 asked one if you if you want to learn 1276 01:08:35,010 --> 01:08:31,810 how how the ancient Egyptians quarried 1277 01:08:39,180 --> 01:08:35,020 granite you need to go to a salon and so 1278 01:08:43,470 --> 01:08:39,190 I said ok so he he took me over to the 1279 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:43,480 travel agent and made sure that I bought 1280 01:08:52,230 --> 01:08:46,810 two tickets to fly to Aswan and which I 1281 01:08:54,930 --> 01:08:52,240 did the the following day and and so the 1282 01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:54,940 explanation for how they acquired how 1283 01:09:01,980 --> 01:08:57,730 the quarry the granite was that they cut 1284 01:09:03,510 --> 01:09:01,990 these slots around the around the quarry 1285 01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:03,520 around the bedrock and then they 1286 01:09:08,070 --> 01:09:06,130 inserted one of matches and then sawed 1287 01:09:10,770 --> 01:09:08,080 them with water and eventually the Rock 1288 01:09:13,140 --> 01:09:10,780 split the interesting thing about that 1289 01:09:15,539 --> 01:09:13,150 was that hmm 1290 01:09:17,700 --> 01:09:15,549 and there yeah when I got back to Cairo 1291 01:09:20,670 --> 01:09:17,710 and I was roaming around khafre's 1292 01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:20,680 pyramid on the Giza Plateau and on the 1293 01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:22,210 south side of Caffrey you've got all 1294 01:09:28,590 --> 01:09:25,210 these granite casing stones that have 1295 01:09:32,039 --> 01:09:28,600 been stripped after the pyramid and the 1296 01:09:35,670 --> 01:09:32,049 tool marks that they are on on the stone 1297 01:09:37,829 --> 01:09:35,680 were identical to the tool the tool 1298 01:09:41,670 --> 01:09:37,839 marks the slots that you see it as well 1299 01:09:45,329 --> 01:09:41,680 and so we put two and two together you'd 1300 01:09:48,380 --> 01:09:45,339 like well they wouldn't quarry something 1301 01:09:50,940 --> 01:09:48,390 I'll use those tools to quarry something 1302 01:09:53,070 --> 01:09:50,950 transport than 500 miles and then 1303 01:09:56,970 --> 01:09:53,080 proceeded to use the same methods to 1304 01:10:00,540 --> 01:09:56,980 strip them off the pyramid and then I 1305 01:10:04,350 --> 01:10:00,550 learned a little more and I started to 1306 01:10:07,170 --> 01:10:04,360 look at Roman quarry methods and you see 1307 01:10:09,900 --> 01:10:07,180 the Roman two tool marks and they're 1308 01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:09,910 identical to what you see an ass one on 1309 01:10:16,590 --> 01:10:12,730 what you see on the Giza Plateau and so 1310 01:10:19,950 --> 01:10:16,600 there it's already in in the record that 1311 01:10:25,110 --> 01:10:19,960 the the Giza Plateau was used as a huge 1312 01:10:29,670 --> 01:10:25,120 quarry are you saying right and so this 1313 01:10:33,780 --> 01:10:29,680 would suggest the Romans had steel and 1314 01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:33,790 and now steel okay I can back up and go 1315 01:10:40,860 --> 01:10:35,410 okay we can we can have that 1316 01:10:42,900 --> 01:10:40,870 conversation but not at 2700 BC we 1317 01:10:44,310 --> 01:10:42,910 and have that conversation it's it's two 1318 01:10:49,110 --> 01:10:44,320 different conversations there are almost 1319 01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:49,120 two thousand years apart yes yes there 1320 01:10:56,700 --> 01:10:51,970 are and and but the interesting thing is 1321 01:10:58,500 --> 01:10:56,710 is that they are claiming that those 1322 01:11:02,220 --> 01:10:58,510 marks were the marks of the ancient 1323 01:11:04,650 --> 01:11:02,230 Egyptians right which it seems clear to 1324 01:11:07,290 --> 01:11:04,660 me that they're not ancient Egyptian 1325 01:11:09,330 --> 01:11:07,300 quarry marks because well you look at 1326 01:11:11,820 --> 01:11:09,340 the around me the quarry look at the 1327 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:11,830 unfinished obelisk in the the there are 1328 01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:14,650 totally different quarry marks so the 1329 01:11:19,230 --> 01:11:16,690 Romans were quarrying at Aswan and they 1330 01:11:23,190 --> 01:11:19,240 were quarrying at on the Giza Plateau 1331 01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:23,200 too and selecting stones and using them 1332 01:11:31,980 --> 01:11:26,650 in their buildings obviously now we're 1333 01:11:34,830 --> 01:11:31,990 talking about it's 20 years since the 1334 01:11:37,950 --> 01:11:34,840 Giza power plant was published doing 1335 01:11:40,700 --> 01:11:37,960 this research in inter you know serious 1336 01:11:46,440 --> 01:11:40,710 interest going back to of course 1977 1337 01:11:50,550 --> 01:11:46,450 how or has your opinion changed over the 1338 01:11:52,980 --> 01:11:50,560 years where are you today are you even 1339 01:11:57,630 --> 01:11:52,990 more extreme in your thought and 1340 01:12:01,740 --> 01:11:57,640 methodology from you know 1982 now or 1341 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:01,750 has it changed at all it's broadened 1342 01:12:10,980 --> 01:12:05,370 quite a bit I think the you know my my 1343 01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:10,990 fundamental belief an understanding that 1344 01:12:17,310 --> 01:12:14,410 the basis on which I I base the book on 1345 01:12:22,050 --> 01:12:17,320 and my research on as far as the the 1346 01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:22,060 Great Pyramid being a machine that the 1347 01:12:31,010 --> 01:12:27,010 produced energy or transduced energy is 1348 01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:31,020 still solid and and that hasn't changed 1349 01:12:36,630 --> 01:12:34,210 as far as the broad 1350 01:12:40,740 --> 01:12:36,640 function of the Great Pyramid that has 1351 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:40,750 been enhanced a little bit how some we 1352 01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:47,050 can well it it gets into the the effects 1353 01:12:57,710 --> 01:12:54,250 of acoustics and how people respond 1354 01:13:03,180 --> 01:12:57,720 to an acoustic environment in terms of 1355 01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:03,190 whether they are whether they are 1356 01:13:09,210 --> 01:13:07,330 pleased with a particular frequency or 1357 01:13:12,510 --> 01:13:09,220 collection of frequencies whether it's 1358 01:13:15,150 --> 01:13:12,520 harm is harmonious with them and then 1359 01:13:18,830 --> 01:13:15,160 what those what those harmonious effects 1360 01:13:22,590 --> 01:13:18,840 have on the body particularly the brain 1361 01:13:25,950 --> 01:13:22,600 and how it would affect their mood and 1362 01:13:28,860 --> 01:13:25,960 state of mind and I think that that is a 1363 01:13:33,450 --> 01:13:28,870 byproduct of the process where you have 1364 01:13:39,380 --> 01:13:33,460 really it's a holistic device that serve 1365 01:13:42,480 --> 01:13:39,390 more than one purpose the the the prime 1366 01:13:45,410 --> 01:13:42,490 function of it was to actually harmonize 1367 01:13:48,900 --> 01:13:45,420 the planet to harmonize the plates and 1368 01:13:53,700 --> 01:13:48,910 to draw energy from the plate so to 1369 01:13:55,410 --> 01:13:53,710 alleviate earthquakes and then because 1370 01:13:57,420 --> 01:13:55,420 they were harmonized in the place and 1371 01:14:02,220 --> 01:13:57,430 they're doing it in such a way that was 1372 01:14:04,260 --> 01:14:02,230 in harmony with the human body with the 1373 01:14:09,900 --> 01:14:04,270 the Europe the earth of the universe 1374 01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:09,910 itself then that the it wasn't a a 1375 01:14:16,950 --> 01:14:14,170 machine that was jarring to the soul or 1376 01:14:21,540 --> 01:14:16,960 the spirit it was a machine that gave 1377 01:14:26,460 --> 01:14:21,550 people comfort and a degree of happiness 1378 01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:26,470 I mean architecture though we live we 1379 01:14:34,370 --> 01:14:30,970 live with it gives us you know it 1380 01:14:37,620 --> 01:14:34,380 connects us with with the community and 1381 01:14:40,410 --> 01:14:37,630 and such is the Great Pyramid even now 1382 01:14:43,610 --> 01:14:40,420 as it's not not functioning to its 1383 01:14:48,020 --> 01:14:43,620 capacities for capacity it's still 1384 01:14:51,510 --> 01:14:48,030 harmonizes and gathers people to 1385 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:51,520 experience being in the pyramids are 1386 01:14:56,340 --> 01:14:53,770 being around the pyramid because it's 1387 01:15:00,300 --> 01:14:56,350 definitely a very high energy spot yeah 1388 01:15:03,350 --> 01:15:00,310 you bring up one of the fascinating 1389 01:15:07,259 --> 01:15:03,360 points for me and that is 1390 01:15:14,790 --> 01:15:07,269 four-forty you know pitched which is the 1391 01:15:18,419 --> 01:15:14,800 note a and it is tuned to a 440 and that 1392 01:15:21,060 --> 01:15:18,429 that frequency pretty much no matter 1393 01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:21,070 where you are in the pyramid will 1394 01:15:29,100 --> 01:15:24,449 resonate through there and even amplify 1395 01:15:30,509 --> 01:15:29,110 and through not only the passageways but 1396 01:15:31,890 --> 01:15:30,519 through the chambers and through the 1397 01:15:34,770 --> 01:15:31,900 individual rooms 1398 01:15:37,529 --> 01:15:34,780 well that would indicate an engineering 1399 01:15:42,450 --> 01:15:37,539 design concept for everything to 1400 01:15:45,689 --> 01:15:42,460 function as one piece yes I mean the the 1401 01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:45,699 whole the whole pyramid is tuned like of 1402 01:15:51,870 --> 01:15:49,360 a very fine musical instrument right and 1403 01:15:54,569 --> 01:15:51,880 the point I made in my book was that 1404 01:15:59,970 --> 01:15:54,579 there are a few pieces missing so you do 1405 01:16:01,770 --> 01:15:59,980 have energy that if the I describe the 1406 01:16:05,790 --> 01:16:01,780 the Great Pyramid is a coupled 1407 01:16:08,220 --> 01:16:05,800 oscillator in other words a device that 1408 01:16:10,700 --> 01:16:08,230 the device a couple oscillator is a 1409 01:16:14,580 --> 01:16:10,710 device that if it's attached to a larger 1410 01:16:17,430 --> 01:16:14,590 vibrating object as long as that larger 1411 01:16:20,430 --> 01:16:17,440 vibrating object continues to produce 1412 01:16:23,970 --> 01:16:20,440 energy or vibration then the oscillator 1413 01:16:27,209 --> 01:16:23,980 which is which resonates with it will 1414 01:16:29,489 --> 01:16:27,219 draw power from it and and so it's my 1415 01:16:31,140 --> 01:16:29,499 contention it's been my contention since 1416 01:16:33,109 --> 01:16:31,150 I wrote the book that the Great Pyramid 1417 01:16:35,220 --> 01:16:33,119 and the other pyramids are actually 1418 01:16:36,899 --> 01:16:35,230 coupled oscillators with the earth 1419 01:16:40,660 --> 01:16:36,909 they're attached to the earth they have 1420 01:16:41,899 --> 01:16:40,670 a relationship not just physically but 1421 01:16:45,839 --> 01:16:41,909 [Music] 1422 01:16:48,629 --> 01:16:45,849 dimensionally with the earth and and 1423 01:16:51,509 --> 01:16:48,639 then when you get into the interior of 1424 01:16:56,069 --> 01:16:51,519 course all the pyramids have an acoustic 1425 01:16:58,229 --> 01:16:56,079 kind of resonance to them the the Great 1426 01:17:01,319 --> 01:16:58,239 Pyramid has been studied more than the 1427 01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:01,329 other but I mean people are still going 1428 01:17:05,339 --> 01:17:03,130 over over it with a fine-tooth comb 1429 01:17:10,319 --> 01:17:05,349 trying to clean more information out of 1430 01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:10,329 it but dimensionally and even measurably 1431 01:17:14,310 --> 01:17:13,449 with instruments it is a very finely 1432 01:17:19,650 --> 01:17:14,320 tuned 1433 01:17:22,410 --> 01:17:19,660 acoustic device now I would I would say 1434 01:17:24,180 --> 01:17:22,420 that most of our audience has read the 1435 01:17:26,190 --> 01:17:24,190 geese of power plant and if they haven't 1436 01:17:28,740 --> 01:17:26,200 and the stragglers out there they need 1437 01:17:30,810 --> 01:17:28,750 to go and get the book and and and read 1438 01:17:34,550 --> 01:17:30,820 it so we I'm not gonna visit the 1439 01:17:36,870 --> 01:17:34,560 specifics of the book but certainly 1440 01:17:39,150 --> 01:17:36,880 there's been a lot of research that has 1441 01:17:40,910 --> 01:17:39,160 come to light over the last couple of 1442 01:17:43,710 --> 01:17:40,920 years and in the last couple of months 1443 01:17:46,490 --> 01:17:43,720 some pretty exciting papers and one of 1444 01:17:48,570 --> 01:17:46,500 them was the e/m electromagnetic 1445 01:17:54,480 --> 01:17:48,580 published paper that came out two months 1446 01:17:56,970 --> 01:17:54,490 ago to me Chris that validates and and 1447 01:18:01,200 --> 01:17:56,980 in a weird way kind of indicates that 1448 01:18:04,710 --> 01:18:01,210 book but how did you approach that paper 1449 01:18:06,570 --> 01:18:04,720 and and were you excited and did it help 1450 01:18:10,500 --> 01:18:06,580 you in some of your concepts that you've 1451 01:18:12,810 --> 01:18:10,510 been trying to present well you know the 1452 01:18:14,700 --> 01:18:12,820 electromagnetic nature of the Great 1453 01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:14,710 Pyramid has been known for many years I 1454 01:18:24,390 --> 01:18:18,970 mean there are anecdotal stories of 1455 01:18:26,970 --> 01:18:24,400 people being shocked by receiving 1456 01:18:31,860 --> 01:18:26,980 electrical shocks of when they'd been 1457 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:31,870 climbing the Great Pyramid and the that 1458 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:35,770 particular paper was when I first read 1459 01:18:42,630 --> 01:18:38,770 it I thought you know it was kind of 1460 01:18:48,450 --> 01:18:42,640 like okay that that that really fits but 1461 01:18:51,420 --> 01:18:48,460 as I have studied it more and and kind 1462 01:18:56,070 --> 01:18:51,430 of let it settle in my mind I do see 1463 01:19:00,390 --> 01:18:56,080 that it has a tremendous impact and it 1464 01:19:03,770 --> 01:19:00,400 does dovetail into the the theory about 1465 01:19:08,100 --> 01:19:03,780 the Great Pyramid channeling energies to 1466 01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:08,110 to actually build power and be able to 1467 01:19:15,770 --> 01:19:11,650 transduce those energies and and so when 1468 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:15,780 we see all you know the full range of 1469 01:19:22,290 --> 01:19:18,970 mechanical energy and electromechanical 1470 01:19:26,220 --> 01:19:22,300 energy and these are all working in 1471 01:19:31,260 --> 01:19:26,230 unison together I think it supports 1472 01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:31,270 the theory tremendously but it does not 1473 01:19:39,870 --> 01:19:36,090 I mean it does not support the 1474 01:19:43,590 --> 01:19:39,880 mechanical function that I described in 1475 01:19:45,900 --> 01:19:43,600 the Giza power plant if you take it you 1476 01:19:49,410 --> 01:19:45,910 know is just two separate bits of 1477 01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:49,420 research it's like well you know my the 1478 01:19:55,950 --> 01:19:53,530 theory I layout is is based on on the 1479 01:19:59,640 --> 01:19:55,960 evidence found inside the Great Pyramid 1480 01:20:01,560 --> 01:19:59,650 but it's more of a mechanical thing I 1481 01:20:06,060 --> 01:20:01,570 mean the electoral mechanical energy 1482 01:20:07,830 --> 01:20:06,070 comes in when the hydrogen gases pumped 1483 01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:07,840 on a higher energy level in the King's 1484 01:20:16,070 --> 01:20:12,010 Chamber right but but as far as other 1485 01:20:19,890 --> 01:20:16,080 energies actually being drawn into the 1486 01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:19,900 the pyramid and assisting in in that 1487 01:20:26,700 --> 01:20:24,010 process I had not considered that but 1488 01:20:31,110 --> 01:20:26,710 I'm certainly considering that now now 1489 01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:31,120 as far as you know what the what the 1490 01:20:37,860 --> 01:20:34,210 final analysis will be I think it's very 1491 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:37,870 a very attractive very attractive piece 1492 01:20:43,860 --> 01:20:40,810 of research that really helps I mean a 1493 01:20:46,229 --> 01:20:43,870 lot of people I received Oh tons of 1494 01:20:50,580 --> 01:20:46,239 emails from people who claim that I was 1495 01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:50,590 vindicated and when I first started to 1496 01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:52,690 get these emails after this paper was 1497 01:20:58,350 --> 01:20:56,770 published it didn't settle with me you 1498 01:21:00,120 --> 01:20:58,360 know and I was like well I don't I 1499 01:21:03,810 --> 01:21:00,130 didn't really think that I was been 1500 01:21:05,820 --> 01:21:03,820 decayed in terms of the technologies or 1501 01:21:07,620 --> 01:21:05,830 the the you know the science that I was 1502 01:21:10,290 --> 01:21:07,630 describing because this was kind of 1503 01:21:13,170 --> 01:21:10,300 separate from it but now that I you know 1504 01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:13,180 now that I think about it I think it 1505 01:21:19,290 --> 01:21:16,930 does kind of blend into it maybe not 1506 01:21:21,690 --> 01:21:19,300 totally vindicate everything that I've 1507 01:21:25,290 --> 01:21:21,700 written about but there certainly would 1508 01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:25,300 blend into it yeah I think that the 1509 01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:27,970 emails that you were getting and and 1510 01:21:34,290 --> 01:21:31,690 what I'm certainly alluding to is that 1511 01:21:36,610 --> 01:21:34,300 it takes the focus away from the case 1512 01:21:39,340 --> 01:21:36,620 that has been presented 1513 01:21:43,540 --> 01:21:39,350 from conventional Egyptologists that it 1514 01:21:47,290 --> 01:21:43,550 was just a tomb and now we have a 1515 01:21:50,260 --> 01:21:47,300 deliberate deliberate engineering aspect 1516 01:21:53,140 --> 01:21:50,270 that it was designed I'm gonna say that 1517 01:21:58,540 --> 01:21:53,150 were deliberate again deliberately for a 1518 01:22:00,970 --> 01:21:58,550 purpose that was not the the tomb that 1519 01:22:03,700 --> 01:22:00,980 it was intended and what we have been 1520 01:22:06,070 --> 01:22:03,710 told time and time again and I think 1521 01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:06,080 that's what those emails are suggesting 1522 01:22:13,380 --> 01:22:09,410 to you yeah so that's that's where I'm 1523 01:22:17,110 --> 01:22:13,390 coming from and we need more of that oh 1524 01:22:19,690 --> 01:22:17,120 it's that that becomes a tipping point 1525 01:22:23,410 --> 01:22:19,700 and I think we've almost reached it 1526 01:22:27,870 --> 01:22:23,420 reached that point now I certainly has 1527 01:22:30,460 --> 01:22:27,880 been reached on my research into the the 1528 01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:30,470 machining of the granite is kind of like 1529 01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:34,250 people really get it and and you know 1530 01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:36,050 they've been millions of tourists 1531 01:22:41,050 --> 01:22:39,050 traveled to Egypt and and even today 1532 01:22:42,610 --> 01:22:41,060 they are traveling around Egypt and 1533 01:22:45,790 --> 01:22:42,620 saying yeah that was machine knows 1534 01:22:49,390 --> 01:22:45,800 machine and and they're I mean these 1535 01:22:53,740 --> 01:22:49,400 people are scientists engineers I took a 1536 01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:53,750 tour to Egypt in March and the folks who 1537 01:22:58,090 --> 01:22:55,970 signed up for my tour were very 1538 01:23:00,550 --> 01:22:58,100 accomplished professionals you know 1539 01:23:04,570 --> 01:23:00,560 there were they were who had several 1540 01:23:07,140 --> 01:23:04,580 engineers a geologist some really 1541 01:23:09,010 --> 01:23:07,150 wonderful very very smart people 1542 01:23:12,940 --> 01:23:09,020 construction people there was a 1543 01:23:14,380 --> 01:23:12,950 microwave technician though quality 1544 01:23:18,190 --> 01:23:14,390 engineers who are looking at the 1545 01:23:20,590 --> 01:23:18,200 precision of the storm and it was it was 1546 01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:20,600 you know quite a quite an experience to 1547 01:23:28,390 --> 01:23:23,930 actually share my work with people who 1548 01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:28,400 really got it some of them you know not 1549 01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:33,770 those that came on my tour but I some of 1550 01:23:40,480 --> 01:23:36,890 them the letters or emails a text that I 1551 01:23:43,510 --> 01:23:40,490 get it's kind of like okay we get it we 1552 01:23:47,860 --> 01:23:43,520 get it and so it's like I don't really 1553 01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:47,870 have to press my case on the machining 1554 01:23:52,190 --> 01:23:49,770 aspect anymore 1555 01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:52,200 it's like it's already out there people 1556 01:23:57,020 --> 01:23:54,210 are recognizing it they agree with it 1557 01:24:00,050 --> 01:23:57,030 and these are people who you would 1558 01:24:03,890 --> 01:24:00,060 actually draw the draw upon if you were 1559 01:24:05,570 --> 01:24:03,900 to actually create these artifacts if 1560 01:24:08,990 --> 01:24:05,580 you wanted to create these artifacts you 1561 01:24:11,150 --> 01:24:09,000 want you want recruit Egyptologists to 1562 01:24:13,490 --> 01:24:11,160 create these artifacts you would recruit 1563 01:24:17,090 --> 01:24:13,500 technicians engineers machinist or 1564 01:24:20,050 --> 01:24:17,100 makers builders you know those who have 1565 01:24:25,100 --> 01:24:20,060 expertise and in how things are made 1566 01:24:27,830 --> 01:24:25,110 well they get it yeah they do I I think 1567 01:24:29,450 --> 01:24:27,840 and it's gonna be soon I'm gonna make 1568 01:24:32,180 --> 01:24:29,460 this very brief my opinion doesn't 1569 01:24:35,090 --> 01:24:32,190 matter but I think that very soon 1570 01:24:37,730 --> 01:24:35,100 there's it's gonna get to the point 1571 01:24:45,980 --> 01:24:37,740 Chris where they're gonna have to tap 1572 01:24:48,830 --> 01:24:45,990 out though I have to say Oracle but that 1573 01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:48,840 really has never has never bothered me 1574 01:24:55,220 --> 01:24:52,770 you know I haven't been on a crusade to 1575 01:24:58,670 --> 01:24:55,230 convince Egyptologist I think of the 1576 01:25:02,300 --> 01:24:58,680 work will be out there and maybe another 1577 01:25:05,750 --> 01:25:02,310 generation you know you would have that 1578 01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:05,760 that that paradigm shift I mean we'll 1579 01:25:13,150 --> 01:25:07,890 meet when you consider Jimmy can you go 1580 01:25:17,390 --> 01:25:13,160 back I picked up features work in in 1581 01:25:20,330 --> 01:25:17,400 1978 right and that was a like a hundred 1582 01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:20,340 years after after Healy he was doing his 1583 01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:22,890 research right a hundred years right 1584 01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:28,410 right and so all credit to Flinders 1585 01:25:36,170 --> 01:25:31,890 Petrie for being such a pioneer and and 1586 01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:36,180 putting his source on paper but you know 1587 01:25:42,020 --> 01:25:39,690 in another hundred years we just don't 1588 01:25:43,820 --> 01:25:42,030 know what the the intellectual 1589 01:25:46,910 --> 01:25:43,830 landscapes gonna look like when it comes 1590 01:25:51,010 --> 01:25:46,920 to our understanding of Egypt I know I 1591 01:25:53,350 --> 01:25:51,020 can tell you now that the Egyptians I 1592 01:25:56,930 --> 01:25:53,360 think if there is going to be a 1593 01:25:58,550 --> 01:25:56,940 revolution of thought on the Egyptian 1594 01:26:00,200 --> 01:25:58,560 monuments is going to come from the 1595 01:26:01,609 --> 01:26:00,210 Egyptians it's not going to come from 1596 01:26:04,810 --> 01:26:01,619 the West 1597 01:26:08,209 --> 01:26:04,820 and they have a greater stake in 1598 01:26:12,260 --> 01:26:08,219 correcting the record than than what we 1599 01:26:14,060 --> 01:26:12,270 do I mean I had we're gonna head towards 1600 01:26:16,359 --> 01:26:14,070 a break I want your comment on this it 1601 01:26:21,290 --> 01:26:16,369 was interesting I had a limo driver 1602 01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:21,300 we're driving from Manhattan to a JFK 1603 01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:23,489 right we're at the end of our stay there 1604 01:26:31,129 --> 01:26:27,050 in limo door and he finds out who I am 1605 01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:31,139 right and he's oh oh oh oh we got a talk 1606 01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:35,330 and I said okay and he said he was an 1607 01:26:45,410 --> 01:26:39,210 Egyptologist eight years of school in 1608 01:26:48,290 --> 01:26:45,420 Egypt and he said that on a general 1609 01:26:50,540 --> 01:26:48,300 level that everybody going to school 1610 01:26:53,689 --> 01:26:50,550 there understands that they're being 1611 01:26:57,700 --> 01:26:53,699 lied to that they know that these 1612 01:27:01,310 --> 01:26:57,710 conversations go on all day long and he 1613 01:27:04,970 --> 01:27:01,320 said in the end he got so frustrated 1614 01:27:07,669 --> 01:27:04,980 with the system there that he packed up 1615 01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:07,679 and came to the states that it is 1616 01:27:13,970 --> 01:27:10,250 completely polluted that they are 1617 01:27:16,250 --> 01:27:13,980 telling you to say one thing but you're 1618 01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:16,260 learning another he said he said I'm 1619 01:27:23,209 --> 01:27:19,650 gonna be honest man we are all as as 1620 01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:23,219 kids in school asking the same questions 1621 01:27:28,700 --> 01:27:26,250 you know this is impossible he said and 1622 01:27:31,339 --> 01:27:28,710 trust me that's the way that it is but 1623 01:27:35,089 --> 01:27:31,349 if you're gonna get your degree you have 1624 01:27:39,649 --> 01:27:35,099 to conform and that he was he was hard 1625 01:27:41,810 --> 01:27:39,659 fast and and angry in this conversation 1626 01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:41,820 it was fascinating Christie hear him 1627 01:27:48,020 --> 01:27:45,330 presents well I mean I'm working with an 1628 01:27:50,149 --> 01:27:48,030 Egyptologist for my tours Mohamed 1629 01:27:55,310 --> 01:27:50,159 Abraham there is a wonderful wonderful 1630 01:27:58,910 --> 01:27:55,320 guy the best and and he totally gets it 1631 01:28:02,930 --> 01:27:58,920 and then supports it and and you know he 1632 01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:02,940 is he's pretty he's preaching it too and 1633 01:28:08,209 --> 01:28:05,250 he's friends or he was taught by Zahi 1634 01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:08,219 Hawass he's friendly with the director 1635 01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:10,530 of the Great Pyramid and they have a 1636 01:28:14,780 --> 01:28:12,330 wonderful relationship but they're 1637 01:28:18,020 --> 01:28:14,790 they're all there 1638 01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:18,030 questioning wasn't looking good wasn't 1639 01:28:24,470 --> 01:28:19,850 it we got ahead towards a break wasn't 1640 01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:24,480 Zahi his teacher in school before he was 1641 01:28:32,390 --> 01:28:29,250 the director yes and colleague he was he 1642 01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:32,400 was his professor absolutely incredible 1643 01:28:39,230 --> 01:28:35,010 let's I'd I don't want to dwell on that 1644 01:28:40,820 --> 01:28:39,240 but that's a fascinating fact let's take 1645 01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:40,830 a break right here Chris and we'll come 1646 01:28:44,210 --> 01:28:42,570 back we'll pick up where we left off I 1647 01:28:46,850 --> 01:28:44,220 do want to get into some of the 1648 01:28:49,070 --> 01:28:46,860 chemistry of the Giza power plant and 1649 01:28:50,810 --> 01:28:49,080 we're gonna discuss that next this is 1650 01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:50,820 fade to black army rose to be church our 1651 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and start listening to the very best 1721 01:32:21,750 --> 01:32:19,870 in paranormal talk entertainment 1722 01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:21,760 including the network you're listening 1723 01:32:27,330 --> 01:32:24,130 to right now the paranormal radio app 1724 01:32:32,100 --> 01:32:27,340 free in Google Play and the iOS App 1725 01:32:34,380 --> 01:32:32,110 Store you are listening to fade to black 1726 01:32:39,180 --> 01:32:34,390 with Jimmy Church on the game changer 1727 01:32:41,250 --> 01:32:39,190 Network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're 1728 01:32:44,190 --> 01:32:41,260 listening to Jimmy Church this is a 1729 01:32:48,050 --> 01:32:44,200 revolution the revolution will not be 1730 01:32:52,970 --> 01:32:48,060 televised the revolution is on radio 1731 01:33:30,899 --> 01:33:28,050 [Music] 1732 01:33:33,370 --> 01:33:30,909 [Applause] 1733 01:33:35,649 --> 01:33:33,380 welcome back fade to black I am your 1734 01:33:37,660 --> 01:33:35,659 host Jimmy church night two of our Egypt 1735 01:33:41,470 --> 01:33:37,670 week here on fade to black our guest 1736 01:33:44,740 --> 01:33:41,480 tonight Christopher Dunn and Christopher 1737 01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:44,750 I want to I want to jump into the 1738 01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:48,530 chemistry side of things we're talking 1739 01:33:55,270 --> 01:33:52,130 about high technology here and when the 1740 01:33:58,379 --> 01:33:55,280 concept appears to be downloaded to you 1741 01:34:01,300 --> 01:33:58,389 by the way I like that the glowing green 1742 01:34:04,959 --> 01:34:01,310 hieroglyphics when the concept first 1743 01:34:07,629 --> 01:34:04,969 came to you of for the great pyramid to 1744 01:34:10,090 --> 01:34:07,639 be used as a power source that 1745 01:34:11,890 --> 01:34:10,100 introduces chemistry and certainly we're 1746 01:34:14,979 --> 01:34:11,900 talking about a civilization that 1747 01:34:18,820 --> 01:34:14,989 shouldn't have understood this but when 1748 01:34:20,530 --> 01:34:18,830 in its very fundamental form what are we 1749 01:34:25,510 --> 01:34:20,540 talking about here when we're dealing 1750 01:34:29,620 --> 01:34:25,520 with chemistry we're talking about the 1751 01:34:33,010 --> 01:34:29,630 Queen's Chamber but in the end the 1752 01:34:37,510 --> 01:34:33,020 overall concept of the technology that 1753 01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:37,520 was being employed and the it goes where 1754 01:34:47,939 --> 01:34:43,730 you have a device the way you can drive 1755 01:34:50,770 --> 01:34:47,949 a gas to a high energy level and 1756 01:34:54,250 --> 01:34:50,780 introduce a microwave signal and then 1757 01:34:56,830 --> 01:34:54,260 draw power from the pyramid in and beam 1758 01:35:00,070 --> 01:34:56,840 it to the outside so that's the overall 1759 01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:00,080 concept and the the gas that I selected 1760 01:35:05,890 --> 01:35:02,530 was hydrogen the reason I selected that 1761 01:35:08,350 --> 01:35:05,900 was that the wavelength of hydrogen 1762 01:35:09,399 --> 01:35:08,360 matched the northern shaft the width of 1763 01:35:13,890 --> 01:35:09,409 the northern shaft 1764 01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:13,900 whereas hydrogen has a wavelength of 1765 01:35:21,010 --> 01:35:18,050 8.30 nine inches and the the northern 1766 01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:21,020 shaft has a width of eight point four 1767 01:35:28,750 --> 01:35:25,250 inches so when we look for the place 1768 01:35:31,540 --> 01:35:28,760 where this chemistry took place and and 1769 01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:31,550 gas was generated then we look into the 1770 01:35:36,459 --> 01:35:33,770 Queen's Chamber and all the research 1771 01:35:38,169 --> 01:35:36,469 that has been done in the Queen's GEMA 1772 01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:38,179 going back to the eighteen hundred's 1773 01:35:43,370 --> 01:35:42,050 were you know Piazzi Smyth discovered 1774 01:35:47,270 --> 01:35:43,380 the southern shaft 1775 01:35:49,970 --> 01:35:47,280 and then the the the the evidence the 1776 01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:49,980 substances that are found there and then 1777 01:35:54,229 --> 01:35:52,530 later when Ganton brink sent his robot 1778 01:35:56,899 --> 01:35:54,239 of the certain the southern shaft and 1779 01:35:58,939 --> 01:35:56,909 discovered that so-called door which is 1780 01:36:01,490 --> 01:35:58,949 not a door I mean the two shafts are 1781 01:36:03,470 --> 01:36:01,500 only about eight inches square maybe a 1782 01:36:09,229 --> 01:36:03,480 door for a squirrel or something great 1783 01:36:11,270 --> 01:36:09,239 right they the but he discovered that 1784 01:36:13,250 --> 01:36:11,280 they had these metal fittings coming 1785 01:36:16,819 --> 01:36:13,260 through coming through that that 1786 01:36:20,689 --> 01:36:16,829 limestone block and when I first saw 1787 01:36:27,350 --> 01:36:20,699 that and it was in rubble boffins book 1788 01:36:29,899 --> 01:36:27,360 the the his first book the Orion mystery 1789 01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:29,909 the Riya mystery yes oh I just had a bit 1790 01:36:41,060 --> 01:36:38,270 so the Orion mystery described that 1791 01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:41,070 exploration and and and then his 1792 01:36:46,939 --> 01:36:43,170 relationship with Rudolph Canton bring 1793 01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:46,949 it was fascinating and but when I saw 1794 01:36:54,260 --> 01:36:50,449 the documentary that was made from that 1795 01:36:57,020 --> 01:36:54,270 exploration and discovery and the first 1796 01:37:00,859 --> 01:36:57,030 time I saw you know you know in the TV 1797 01:37:03,770 --> 01:37:00,869 screen this this blockage of the 1798 01:37:06,470 --> 01:37:03,780 southern shaft because not until then 1799 01:37:08,689 --> 01:37:06,480 nobody knew where that ship that chef 1800 01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:08,699 went out to the outside or where it went 1801 01:37:14,839 --> 01:37:13,170 and then these are these couple of 1802 01:37:17,660 --> 01:37:14,849 fittings or metal fittings coming 1803 01:37:20,959 --> 01:37:17,670 through immediately it just fit right 1804 01:37:24,589 --> 01:37:20,969 into the the the theory that I was 1805 01:37:29,149 --> 01:37:24,599 developing in there that they were using 1806 01:37:30,620 --> 01:37:29,159 a two chemicals to to boil off hydrogen 1807 01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:30,630 in the Queen's Chamber 1808 01:37:36,410 --> 01:37:33,570 one was the I'd rated zinc in the 1809 01:37:39,350 --> 01:37:36,420 northern shaft and a dilute solution of 1810 01:37:41,450 --> 01:37:39,360 hydrochloric acid and that when they mix 1811 01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:41,460 they boil off hydrogen and so the 1812 01:37:47,300 --> 01:37:44,730 evidence in the Queen's Chamber is very 1813 01:37:50,750 --> 01:37:47,310 strong for that because in the you know 1814 01:37:53,540 --> 01:37:50,760 early early explorers noted that the the 1815 01:37:57,140 --> 01:37:53,550 chamber had a calling of salts up to an 1816 01:37:58,970 --> 01:37:57,150 inch thick and also in 1817 01:38:02,390 --> 01:37:58,980 the shaft where you have a corrosive 1818 01:38:04,550 --> 01:38:02,400 liquid the the lower parts of the shaft 1819 01:38:06,890 --> 01:38:04,560 were what actually looked like that 1820 01:38:09,890 --> 01:38:06,900 corroded and there's a part and the 1821 01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:09,900 floor of the shaft that that seemed to 1822 01:38:15,020 --> 01:38:12,330 suggest that there was a corrosion going 1823 01:38:17,180 --> 01:38:15,030 on in the in that shaft and then the 1824 01:38:19,670 --> 01:38:17,190 company copper fittings themselves I say 1825 01:38:23,690 --> 01:38:19,680 couple but I don't we I don't know what 1826 01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:23,700 the metal is but these fittings were 1827 01:38:30,020 --> 01:38:27,930 corroded and they were tapered from that 1828 01:38:32,210 --> 01:38:30,030 the top of the it's wider at the top 1829 01:38:35,510 --> 01:38:32,220 than the bottom which suggests that that 1830 01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:35,520 liquid was actually falling and then 1831 01:38:42,100 --> 01:38:38,730 filling up again and then falling but 1832 01:38:45,700 --> 01:38:42,110 the the theory in the Giza problem 1833 01:38:48,590 --> 01:38:45,710 describes at that being a fluid switch 1834 01:38:52,700 --> 01:38:48,600 because what you need what you needed 1835 01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:52,710 here to determine the exact flow into 1836 01:38:58,250 --> 01:38:55,410 the chamber was what you needed to know 1837 01:39:00,470 --> 01:38:58,260 was what the head pressure was and the 1838 01:39:03,740 --> 01:39:00,480 head pressure determined you know what 1839 01:39:08,180 --> 01:39:03,750 pressure you were putting up against the 1840 01:39:11,630 --> 01:39:08,190 law of the lower section where the chef 1841 01:39:13,820 --> 01:39:11,640 does not meet the Queen's Chamber it 1842 01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:13,830 doesn't go directly through it but there 1843 01:39:18,950 --> 01:39:15,410 is like a five inch 1844 01:39:22,820 --> 01:39:18,960 let where the collar left where they the 1845 01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:22,830 shaft was cut out leaving there are five 1846 01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:26,370 inches of limestone between the shaft 1847 01:39:30,950 --> 01:39:28,650 and the inside wall of the of the 1848 01:39:34,970 --> 01:39:30,960 Queen's Chamber so gayden the rings door 1849 01:39:38,120 --> 01:39:34,980 wasn't a door or a plug but a switch it 1850 01:39:40,700 --> 01:39:38,130 was a switch it was a it was a fluid 1851 01:39:45,530 --> 01:39:40,710 switch yes and I mean and there they 1852 01:39:48,770 --> 01:39:45,540 used they used very popularly and a lot 1853 01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:48,780 of machines I mean they I was involved 1854 01:39:54,860 --> 01:39:52,170 in in in managing a laser Department and 1855 01:39:58,190 --> 01:39:54,870 we had deionized water and we had to 1856 01:40:01,660 --> 01:39:58,200 make sure that the water did not become 1857 01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:01,670 ionized and so there there was a switch 1858 01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:05,730 that was installed in the tank and if it 1859 01:40:10,529 --> 01:40:08,010 became ionized then they will be 1860 01:40:12,419 --> 01:40:10,539 electron flow between the two electrodes 1861 01:40:15,270 --> 01:40:12,429 the light would go off and then you 1862 01:40:16,799 --> 01:40:15,280 would you know an alarm will go off and 1863 01:40:20,220 --> 01:40:16,809 you'd have to shut the laser down 1864 01:40:23,100 --> 01:40:20,230 because the the high energy that you 1865 01:40:26,339 --> 01:40:23,110 were driving the lamps with if you're 1866 01:40:28,290 --> 01:40:26,349 using if you're using ionized water to 1867 01:40:35,189 --> 01:40:28,300 cool the lamps then you would have 1868 01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:35,199 problems so the those kind of those kind 1869 01:40:41,430 --> 01:40:38,250 of devices are well known in in 1870 01:40:43,649 --> 01:40:41,440 engineering and in manufacturing and so 1871 01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:43,659 it was it seemed you know just natural 1872 01:40:51,810 --> 01:40:48,010 that that I would I would actually you 1873 01:40:55,319 --> 01:40:51,820 know determine the other yeah what we 1874 01:40:58,620 --> 01:40:55,329 have is a fluid switch I actually built 1875 01:41:01,529 --> 01:40:58,630 a model of the Ganton bring store and a 1876 01:41:04,350 --> 01:41:01,539 section of the shaft and I demonstrated 1877 01:41:06,390 --> 01:41:04,360 how how it works and it worked perfectly 1878 01:41:09,779 --> 01:41:06,400 fine even with regular water 1879 01:41:11,850 --> 01:41:09,789 you know with these salt deposits I 1880 01:41:14,660 --> 01:41:11,860 don't want that to get away from us this 1881 01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:14,670 is very significant so what would the 1882 01:41:24,660 --> 01:41:18,010 salt deposit when the chamber was first 1883 01:41:28,939 --> 01:41:24,670 discovered what does that say to you the 1884 01:41:34,709 --> 01:41:28,949 one of the ways that you have for drying 1885 01:41:37,580 --> 01:41:34,719 hydrogen when you create hydrogen is it 1886 01:41:40,379 --> 01:41:37,590 boils after the from a chemical process 1887 01:41:43,220 --> 01:41:40,389 but it has to dry it it passes over a 1888 01:41:46,979 --> 01:41:43,230 limestone and the limestone has a 1889 01:41:50,850 --> 01:41:46,989 function where it would actually dry dry 1890 01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:50,860 the gas and then it would give up some 1891 01:41:58,350 --> 01:41:55,570 of this some of this also it would leak 1892 01:42:01,439 --> 01:41:58,360 salts from from the limestone itself and 1893 01:42:07,669 --> 01:42:01,449 then that would gather on the walls now 1894 01:42:11,850 --> 01:42:07,679 the conventional historian Orthodox 1895 01:42:15,870 --> 01:42:11,860 Egyptologist would explain this away how 1896 01:42:21,359 --> 01:42:15,880 I don't think they would even address it 1897 01:42:23,180 --> 01:42:21,369 I I you know I don't expect them to 1898 01:42:25,500 --> 01:42:23,190 address it 1899 01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:25,510 they would just dismiss it out of hand 1900 01:42:30,930 --> 01:42:28,410 because it doesn't really fit with their 1901 01:42:33,990 --> 01:42:30,940 with their point of view their worldview 1902 01:42:39,180 --> 01:42:34,000 so it's not something that I expect them 1903 01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:39,190 to even even address certainly you know 1904 01:42:46,740 --> 01:42:43,210 there have been there have been comments 1905 01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:46,750 made about the you know the practicality 1906 01:42:55,290 --> 01:42:50,770 of using a corrosive liquid in a 1907 01:42:58,290 --> 01:42:55,300 limestone shaft and so I had to you know 1908 01:43:00,720 --> 01:42:58,300 do an experiment myself with dilute 1909 01:43:03,570 --> 01:43:00,730 hydrochloric acid on limestone to see 1910 01:43:07,140 --> 01:43:03,580 what the arrows are corrosion rate was 1911 01:43:09,540 --> 01:43:07,150 and it's definitely it definitely 1912 01:43:12,780 --> 01:43:09,550 corrodes it would corrode over time but 1913 01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:12,790 but it would still still you know he 1914 01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:16,690 could you could conduit those chemicals 1915 01:43:21,300 --> 01:43:19,090 through through a limestone shale and 1916 01:43:24,660 --> 01:43:21,310 speaking of the shafts you had a very 1917 01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:24,670 interesting conversation I don't know if 1918 01:43:28,770 --> 01:43:26,770 we're finished with the chemicals yes 1919 01:43:30,630 --> 01:43:28,780 iam not bothered about the chemicals 1920 01:43:32,790 --> 01:43:30,640 because I was fascinated with your 1921 01:43:35,430 --> 01:43:32,800 conversation with my neighbor last night 1922 01:43:40,890 --> 01:43:35,440 about about the actually build in the 1923 01:43:44,310 --> 01:43:40,900 shafts on the northern shaft they did an 1924 01:43:46,860 --> 01:43:44,320 exploration the the pyramid pyramid 1925 01:43:50,790 --> 01:43:46,870 explore a parameter over went up to 1926 01:43:52,290 --> 01:43:50,800 northern chef and they they found that 1927 01:43:56,310 --> 01:43:52,300 the northern there was a northern 1928 01:43:59,550 --> 01:43:56,320 blockage that also had these what I call 1929 01:44:02,220 --> 01:43:59,560 electrodes protruding through it but 1930 01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:02,230 they're of a different nature than the 1931 01:44:07,980 --> 01:44:05,170 southern chef then they're one of the 1932 01:44:11,550 --> 01:44:07,990 electrodes I'm presuming the cathode has 1933 01:44:13,860 --> 01:44:11,560 a buildup of some kind of white 1934 01:44:16,740 --> 01:44:13,870 substance it's almost it looks like it's 1935 01:44:19,440 --> 01:44:16,750 been electroplated and there's 1936 01:44:21,090 --> 01:44:19,450 definitely the appearance of a some kind 1937 01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:21,100 of a chemical process like like a 1938 01:44:27,300 --> 01:44:25,570 battery you know if you look at the the 1939 01:44:30,090 --> 01:44:27,310 electrodes or the leaves on ion a 1940 01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:30,100 battery you see how they you know they 1941 01:44:38,130 --> 01:44:34,570 they build up a white substance when 1942 01:44:41,959 --> 01:44:38,140 when they have been installed for quite 1943 01:44:44,250 --> 01:44:41,969 and then if you pretend the latest 1944 01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:44,260 exploration of the southern shaft in the 1945 01:44:51,060 --> 01:44:47,410 Queen's Chamber they were able to poke a 1946 01:44:54,300 --> 01:44:51,070 camera through the hole that articulated 1947 01:44:57,770 --> 01:44:54,310 and they were able to look back and and 1948 01:45:02,520 --> 01:44:57,780 get a view of the backside of those 1949 01:45:06,810 --> 01:45:02,530 those copper fittings and they actually 1950 01:45:09,900 --> 01:45:06,820 kill loop around and go back into the 1951 01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:09,910 block yeah Wow when I saw that let's 1952 01:45:15,450 --> 01:45:12,210 let's talk about that for a second I 1953 01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:15,460 write what you think is going yeah what 1954 01:45:23,340 --> 01:45:17,050 do you think is going on there 1955 01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:23,350 oh it's it's fascinating actually and I 1956 01:45:31,590 --> 01:45:26,890 actually made I got one of those the 1957 01:45:34,500 --> 01:45:31,600 Canton bring door and I formed my own my 1958 01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:34,510 own copper fittings with the loops that 1959 01:45:43,340 --> 01:45:38,170 came back into the into the door and yet 1960 01:45:47,250 --> 01:45:43,350 but the the other part of that was the 1961 01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:47,260 it was the the markings that were on the 1962 01:45:51,810 --> 01:45:48,010 floor 1963 01:45:54,630 --> 01:45:51,820 at the back of the door so you have you 1964 01:45:58,620 --> 01:45:54,640 have these copper fittings and then you 1965 01:45:59,910 --> 01:45:58,630 have these markings on on the floor and 1966 01:46:02,430 --> 01:45:59,920 then when you look at the copper 1967 01:46:05,910 --> 01:46:02,440 fittings and you see sure enough one of 1968 01:46:08,490 --> 01:46:05,920 the one of these one of the electrodes 1969 01:46:10,860 --> 01:46:08,500 had had these this builder for the 1970 01:46:17,790 --> 01:46:10,870 substance on a corrosion on it and then 1971 01:46:22,189 --> 01:46:17,800 the other one was cleaned so it's a and 1972 01:46:25,290 --> 01:46:22,199 the markings seem to indicate how the 1973 01:46:29,310 --> 01:46:25,300 those fittings of those metal fittings 1974 01:46:31,590 --> 01:46:29,320 were wired and there the well when I 1975 01:46:35,010 --> 01:46:31,600 looked at the marks on the floor it's 1976 01:46:37,380 --> 01:46:35,020 like I'm looking at I'm looking at a 1977 01:46:40,050 --> 01:46:37,390 schematic and electric electrical 1978 01:46:41,459 --> 01:46:40,060 symbols I'm not looking at you know a 1979 01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:41,469 higher arc or so when they were first 1980 01:46:48,570 --> 01:46:45,610 discovered they were people were very 1981 01:46:50,580 --> 01:46:48,580 puzzled because they they didn't they 1982 01:46:53,070 --> 01:46:50,590 didn't have any known 1983 01:46:55,830 --> 01:46:53,080 hieroglyph that actually looked like it 1984 01:46:58,020 --> 01:46:55,840 but if you if you view them as being 1985 01:47:03,060 --> 01:46:58,030 electrical symbols you know it really 1986 01:47:05,490 --> 01:47:03,070 makes sense oh man that is genius you 1987 01:47:09,570 --> 01:47:05,500 know what I I'm gonna make you laugh 1988 01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:09,580 I looked at that and I saw like 1989 01:47:15,590 --> 01:47:13,090 childlike attempts at stick figures I 1990 01:47:21,780 --> 01:47:15,600 don't know how to explain right well 1991 01:47:25,310 --> 01:47:21,790 there's even a line going towards the 1992 01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:25,320 with the one with the one fitting that 1993 01:47:30,150 --> 01:47:28,210 there's highlights or it identifies the 1994 01:47:32,610 --> 01:47:30,160 polarity you know so if they heard this 1995 01:47:36,990 --> 01:47:32,620 is the positive electrode and this is 1996 01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:37,000 how you wire and and it's it's it's very 1997 01:47:42,390 --> 01:47:39,130 clear I mean the the markings are fairly 1998 01:47:44,730 --> 01:47:42,400 crude you know probably painted on with 1999 01:47:51,270 --> 01:47:44,740 what red ochre paint or something like 2000 01:47:56,300 --> 01:47:51,280 that but I have three articles in my 2001 01:47:58,920 --> 01:47:56,310 articles page about the explorations of 2002 01:48:02,910 --> 01:47:58,930 the southern shaft in the northern shell 2003 01:48:07,230 --> 01:48:02,920 and there's one article called evidence 2004 01:48:09,630 --> 01:48:07,240 leading to Canton Brinks door then what 2005 01:48:13,110 --> 01:48:09,640 is behind Canton brings door and then 2006 01:48:16,950 --> 01:48:13,120 beyond Ganton restore and those those 2007 01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:16,960 articles actually include those images 2008 01:48:25,130 --> 01:48:20,410 and photographs of the photographs of 2009 01:48:28,980 --> 01:48:25,140 the device that I made but you know 2010 01:48:32,070 --> 01:48:28,990 theories have to be predictive and and 2011 01:48:34,740 --> 01:48:32,080 so new evidence if you have a theory and 2012 01:48:37,050 --> 01:48:34,750 new evidence is turned up if it doesn't 2013 01:48:40,950 --> 01:48:37,060 if it doesn't support your theory then 2014 01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:40,960 you have to change your theory and if 2015 01:48:44,550 --> 01:48:42,610 you can't change your theory then you 2016 01:48:46,980 --> 01:48:44,560 pretty much have to go back to the 2017 01:48:50,970 --> 01:48:46,990 drawing board or you know abandon it and 2018 01:48:54,170 --> 01:48:50,980 it seems that every every little bit of 2019 01:48:57,510 --> 01:48:54,180 information that's been gathered 2020 01:48:59,730 --> 01:48:57,520 supports supports the the theory that I 2021 01:49:03,620 --> 01:48:59,740 described and illustrated in my book 2022 01:49:07,430 --> 01:49:03,630 even down to the first explore 2023 01:49:10,440 --> 01:49:07,440 bye-bye Ganton bring when he they used a 2024 01:49:11,790 --> 01:49:10,450 an ultrasonic thickness test of because 2025 01:49:12,750 --> 01:49:11,800 they were going to drill through the 2026 01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:12,760 door mm-hmm 2027 01:49:17,610 --> 01:49:15,010 although this wasn't Ganton weakness 2028 01:49:20,250 --> 01:49:17,620 result the next exploration I think it 2029 01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:20,260 was in 2002 they're gonna drink they 2030 01:49:23,820 --> 01:49:22,090 were gonna drill through the door but 2031 01:49:27,750 --> 01:49:23,830 they needed to know how long a drill 2032 01:49:30,050 --> 01:49:27,760 they needed to use right so they used an 2033 01:49:34,440 --> 01:49:30,060 ultrasonic thickness tester on it and 2034 01:49:39,180 --> 01:49:34,450 they came up with a dimension of about 2035 01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:39,190 three point two five and the and in my 2036 01:49:44,250 --> 01:49:42,130 book my dimension on that was 2037 01:49:48,270 --> 01:49:44,260 illustrated to be about three point six 2038 01:49:50,910 --> 01:49:48,280 four so you know for the design intent 2039 01:49:53,340 --> 01:49:50,920 they kind of dry the intention all that 2040 01:49:57,690 --> 01:49:53,350 the function of a device that it kind of 2041 01:49:59,040 --> 01:49:57,700 drives the the design of it because you 2042 01:50:03,540 --> 01:49:59,050 know I mean that's just the way it works 2043 01:50:07,650 --> 01:50:03,550 in engineering that you you look at it 2044 01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:07,660 as an engineer because everybody was 2045 01:50:15,330 --> 01:50:11,890 attempting to get a name out of that 2046 01:50:17,790 --> 01:50:15,340 glyph or you know something known from 2047 01:50:23,550 --> 01:50:17,800 from hieroglyphics and that it was 2048 01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:23,560 saying something as opposed to the 2049 01:50:30,090 --> 01:50:27,610 electrical side of things where because 2050 01:50:32,100 --> 01:50:30,100 when you look at when you look at 2051 01:50:34,830 --> 01:50:32,110 anything that is representing 2052 01:50:37,530 --> 01:50:34,840 electronics that symbolism doesn't make 2053 01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:37,540 sense to anybody right you have to be an 2054 01:50:42,060 --> 01:50:40,210 electrician to understand what is going 2055 01:50:43,620 --> 01:50:42,070 on there it just doesn't look it doesn't 2056 01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:43,630 look like an alphabet it doesn't look 2057 01:50:48,930 --> 01:50:47,290 like anything this is and I know you're 2058 01:50:50,970 --> 01:50:48,940 understanding exactly what I'm saying 2059 01:50:53,790 --> 01:50:50,980 and if you look at it through Chris 2060 01:50:55,830 --> 01:50:53,800 Dunn's eyes now we're looking at 2061 01:50:58,950 --> 01:50:55,840 something else it's a schematic it's 2062 01:51:00,600 --> 01:50:58,960 symbolism for schematics which and 2063 01:51:05,630 --> 01:51:00,610 nobody else would even understand when 2064 01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:05,640 they first see it well yes I mean and 2065 01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:09,370 probably even those who are engineers or 2066 01:51:15,620 --> 01:51:13,810 electricians probably will I mean it was 2067 01:51:18,140 --> 01:51:15,630 obvious to me because 2068 01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:18,150 I had done the groundwork and developed 2069 01:51:24,260 --> 01:51:21,449 a theory where those you know those 2070 01:51:27,610 --> 01:51:24,270 features actually fit right into blended 2071 01:51:31,070 --> 01:51:27,620 right in just like a hand in glove and 2072 01:51:35,149 --> 01:51:31,080 and so it was obvious to me it may not 2073 01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:35,159 be obvious to everybody I but it seemed 2074 01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:37,530 obvious to me and I under I've written 2075 01:51:45,140 --> 01:51:40,290 about it I'll write more about it in my 2076 01:51:45,709 --> 01:51:45,150 next book now okay so it's an energy 2077 01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:45,719 source 2078 01:51:52,129 --> 01:51:48,330 okay let's Excel what well except that 2079 01:51:57,770 --> 01:51:52,139 let's let's let's go with this but the 2080 01:52:02,000 --> 01:51:57,780 next question is for what that's that's 2081 01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:02,010 a perennial question it never goes away 2082 01:52:09,129 --> 01:52:05,250 right or what and you know the only the 2083 01:52:14,450 --> 01:52:09,139 only answer I I have you know whatever 2084 01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:14,460 reason they wanted it for some people 2085 01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:19,290 have actually speculated that they that 2086 01:52:27,850 --> 01:52:24,330 the it was a microwave beacon where it 2087 01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:27,860 was actually guiding crafts or 2088 01:52:37,910 --> 01:52:32,610 triangulating with other microwave beams 2089 01:52:41,180 --> 01:52:37,920 to get as a guidance system but in terms 2090 01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:41,190 of what we know about the generation of 2091 01:52:48,740 --> 01:52:45,690 energy and how we use it then you know 2092 01:52:51,110 --> 01:52:48,750 we we get the question well where are 2093 01:52:54,620 --> 01:52:51,120 you know where are the microwave ovens 2094 01:52:57,379 --> 01:52:54,630 where the toasters and so people are 2095 01:53:02,390 --> 01:52:57,389 trying to understand it in in modern 2096 01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:02,400 terms but that question could be asked 2097 01:53:07,850 --> 01:53:05,850 about just about everything that's 2098 01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:07,860 missing in Egypt because there's so much 2099 01:53:15,500 --> 01:53:12,210 missing and you know to say that okay we 2100 01:53:19,370 --> 01:53:15,510 have all the the tools and the 2101 01:53:24,220 --> 01:53:19,380 inspection equipment which would have to 2102 01:53:27,860 --> 01:53:24,230 be fairly substantial and and plentiful 2103 01:53:29,260 --> 01:53:27,870 in order to do the work that they did we 2104 01:53:32,990 --> 01:53:29,270 accept that those 2105 01:53:35,990 --> 01:53:33,000 missing now they've disappeared into the 2106 01:53:39,710 --> 01:53:36,000 earth somewhere maybe you know a huge 2107 01:53:43,340 --> 01:53:39,720 tsunami big Cataclysm scrubbed the 2108 01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:43,350 landscape of all of these items but then 2109 01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:48,210 we need to see a toaster oven before we 2110 01:53:56,050 --> 01:53:51,330 will accept that they their largest 2111 01:53:59,530 --> 01:53:56,060 project which was actually a power plant 2112 01:54:03,350 --> 01:53:59,540 their largest project we needed to have 2113 01:54:06,380 --> 01:54:03,360 those items in order to prove that it 2114 01:54:09,170 --> 01:54:06,390 was a power plant well you thought about 2115 01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:09,180 this a lot you think about this every 2116 01:54:16,460 --> 01:54:13,530 day Chris what what is it that if you 2117 01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:16,470 were if you were gonna put the you know 2118 01:54:19,610 --> 01:54:17,850 the money down you're gonna push your 2119 01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:19,620 poker chips to the center of the table 2120 01:54:29,050 --> 01:54:24,410 what do you think it was used for I 2121 01:54:32,470 --> 01:54:29,060 think I mean I think it was used for 2122 01:54:35,650 --> 01:54:32,480 utilitarian purposes they were powering 2123 01:54:41,320 --> 01:54:35,660 their power aggressive Allah zation and 2124 01:54:46,150 --> 01:54:41,330 they were probably I mean in my book I 2125 01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:46,160 fantasize it's a fantasy or speculation 2126 01:54:53,540 --> 01:54:50,970 about how that energy if what we know 2127 01:54:57,770 --> 01:54:53,550 about the transmission of energy today 2128 01:55:02,120 --> 01:54:57,780 and what has been proposed that that 2129 01:55:04,690 --> 01:55:02,130 energy could be bounced off a relay 2130 01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:04,700 satellite to another part of the world 2131 01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:08,970 or to the moon or you know to somewhere 2132 01:55:15,890 --> 01:55:12,450 else to a craft that's traveling through 2133 01:55:18,740 --> 01:55:15,900 space I mean their speculation I mean 2134 01:55:21,710 --> 01:55:18,750 there's you know speculation is that is 2135 01:55:25,010 --> 01:55:21,720 a that is viable to reduce the amount of 2136 01:55:29,300 --> 01:55:25,020 fuel that a craft has to carry into 2137 01:55:31,550 --> 01:55:29,310 orbit they they speculate that that 2138 01:55:34,100 --> 01:55:31,560 energy could be beamed through that 2139 01:55:36,830 --> 01:55:34,110 craft or it to use so they don't have to 2140 01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:36,840 have such a large payload sure so I 2141 01:55:42,290 --> 01:55:39,570 Tesla free energy type of thought 2142 01:55:44,960 --> 01:55:42,300 pattern here 2143 01:55:49,300 --> 01:55:44,970 well I mean it's I think he's kind of 2144 01:55:55,190 --> 01:55:52,730 speculation or you know it's but it's 2145 01:55:59,360 --> 01:55:55,200 worth it's definitely worth discussing 2146 01:56:01,610 --> 01:55:59,370 and if there was you know if it was 2147 01:56:05,210 --> 01:56:01,620 decided that yes this is what we need to 2148 01:56:06,980 --> 01:56:05,220 do and we need to put the funding and 2149 01:56:10,850 --> 01:56:06,990 the resources behind it and make sure 2150 01:56:12,700 --> 01:56:10,860 that it happens then certainly we could 2151 01:56:16,580 --> 01:56:12,710 make it happen for sure 2152 01:56:19,540 --> 01:56:16,590 we're gonna head towards a break one one 2153 01:56:23,830 --> 01:56:19,550 quick question before we get there the 2154 01:56:27,650 --> 01:56:23,840 the idea makes sense for the power plant 2155 01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:27,660 the pyramid was was definitely built 2156 01:56:34,220 --> 01:56:30,450 with intention with engineering specs 2157 01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:34,230 beyond what was needed we understand 2158 01:56:41,150 --> 01:56:38,490 that but the question has to be answered 2159 01:56:45,500 --> 01:56:41,160 is it's a simple one 2160 01:56:48,140 --> 01:56:45,510 how did primitive Stone Age man build 2161 01:56:51,050 --> 01:56:48,150 this is the answer that they didn't 2162 01:56:54,730 --> 01:56:51,060 build it and it was somebody else where 2163 01:57:02,750 --> 01:56:59,870 well Stone Age primitive man didn't have 2164 01:57:09,080 --> 01:57:02,760 the tools that were capable of doing it 2165 01:57:12,050 --> 01:57:09,090 and and so you have for me I would look 2166 01:57:17,450 --> 01:57:12,060 further back into history I think there 2167 01:57:20,260 --> 01:57:17,460 is a you know a gap where I think we 2168 01:57:25,660 --> 01:57:20,270 have to go back to a point in time where 2169 01:57:28,220 --> 01:57:25,670 we had some kind of a cataclysm and the 2170 01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:28,230 the earth and the population on the 2171 01:57:34,730 --> 01:57:31,890 earth was affected so you know some 2172 01:57:37,070 --> 01:57:34,740 people go back 9,000 years and I think 2173 01:57:39,050 --> 01:57:37,080 Robert Schoch is one of those terrors 2174 01:57:45,380 --> 01:57:39,060 that talk about a ninety-five hundred 2175 01:57:47,450 --> 01:57:45,390 years Perry but certainly you know if 2176 01:57:50,750 --> 01:57:47,460 such a cataclysm happened there would be 2177 01:57:53,290 --> 01:57:50,760 tremendous destruction I mean we you 2178 01:57:57,040 --> 01:57:53,300 disrupt a you disrupt the 2179 01:58:00,669 --> 01:57:57,050 supply chain for some of our industries 2180 01:58:03,750 --> 01:58:00,679 it's like they would grind to a halt for 2181 01:58:08,229 --> 01:58:03,760 instance I'll give you an example 2182 01:58:12,850 --> 01:58:08,239 aircraft engines use these exotic metals 2183 01:58:15,459 --> 01:58:12,860 and in those exotic metals you have the 2184 01:58:18,040 --> 01:58:15,469 percentage of chromium in order to 2185 01:58:21,339 --> 01:58:18,050 create these metals chromium comes from 2186 01:58:25,870 --> 01:58:21,349 South Africa so if you disrupt the 2187 01:58:28,750 --> 01:58:25,880 supply chain of chromium into our 2188 01:58:31,290 --> 01:58:28,760 industries then that will grab her halt 2189 01:58:36,040 --> 01:58:31,300 we'd have to go prospecting for chromium 2190 01:58:39,459 --> 01:58:36,050 and other part in America or but then if 2191 01:58:44,140 --> 01:58:39,469 you've got a the supply chain and the 2192 01:58:48,299 --> 01:58:44,150 and the travel of goods around the world 2193 01:58:51,790 --> 01:58:48,309 everything is so entwined and connected 2194 01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:51,800 that it would be such a disruption the 2195 01:58:58,089 --> 01:58:54,770 III and if you have very large section 2196 01:59:00,580 --> 01:58:58,099 of the world if there was a like an 2197 01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:00,590 extinction event like that has been 2198 01:59:06,729 --> 01:59:03,530 talked about where a you know a vast 2199 01:59:08,859 --> 01:59:06,739 swath of the humanity just told 2200 01:59:13,450 --> 01:59:08,869 disappears from the face of the earth 2201 01:59:17,459 --> 01:59:13,460 then you're dead in the water and and if 2202 01:59:22,390 --> 01:59:17,469 you do have you know these artifacts 2203 01:59:24,879 --> 01:59:22,400 still still around we probably cannot 2204 01:59:27,399 --> 01:59:24,889 cannibalized them and other to use doing 2205 01:59:30,640 --> 01:59:27,409 something different and then you know a 2206 01:59:34,780 --> 01:59:30,650 lot of you have ferrous metals they 2207 01:59:36,850 --> 01:59:34,790 would they would erode over time I know 2208 01:59:40,330 --> 01:59:36,860 I probably wouldn't take ten thousand 2209 01:59:45,569 --> 01:59:40,340 years for things to disappear I mean I 2210 01:59:48,640 --> 01:59:45,579 have to do is look in a ravine in India 2211 01:59:51,370 --> 01:59:48,650 at a little car that's just been driven 2212 01:59:53,470 --> 01:59:51,380 over the hill for me and we heard the 20 2213 01:59:55,810 --> 01:59:53,480 years is right there's not much of it 2214 01:59:59,439 --> 01:59:55,820 left we would find ourselves in the 2215 02:00:03,790 --> 01:59:59,449 Stone Age really really really quickly 2216 02:00:05,260 --> 02:00:03,800 oh it would take very little to get us 2217 02:00:06,790 --> 02:00:05,270 there too as well let's take a break 2218 02:00:09,549 --> 02:00:06,800 right here Chris again 2219 02:00:12,040 --> 02:00:09,559 tonight Christopher done night two of 2220 02:00:13,510 --> 02:00:12,050 our Egypt week here on fade to black I'm 2221 02:00:15,069 --> 02:00:13,520 eros to be Church and we're gonna pick 2222 02:00:17,350 --> 02:00:15,079 up where we left off when we come back 2223 02:00:27,600 --> 02:00:17,360 this is fade to black stay with us 2224 02:00:32,970 --> 02:00:27,610 [Music] 2225 02:00:39,609 --> 02:00:36,250 this is KCRA digital broadcasting 2226 02:00:42,399 --> 02:00:39,619 station Salt Lake City Utah Van Buren 2227 02:00:44,770 --> 02:00:42,409 Arkansas for water quality is a major 2228 02:00:46,660 --> 02:00:44,780 health issue and it's only getting worse 2229 02:00:48,490 --> 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the tea hey it's Lisa here to tell you 2286 02:03:13,720 --> 02:03:11,809 about this all-natural all organic tea 2287 02:03:15,250 --> 02:03:13,730 I've been drinking that has had great 2288 02:03:18,189 --> 02:03:15,260 results for over 20 years 2289 02:03:20,020 --> 02:03:18,199 it's called life changed tea and it's 2290 02:03:22,660 --> 02:03:20,030 specially formulated to help detoxify 2291 02:03:25,330 --> 02:03:22,670 and cleanse your kidneys liver colon and 2292 02:03:26,890 --> 02:03:25,340 blood all at once the colon is one of 2293 02:03:29,500 --> 02:03:26,900 the most ignored organs in the human 2294 02:03:31,299 --> 02:03:29,510 body the faster that waste is eliminated 2295 02:03:33,310 --> 02:03:31,309 from the body the less time that way 2296 02:03:35,290 --> 02:03:33,320 sits in our intestines spreading toxins 2297 02:03:37,180 --> 02:03:35,300 to our bloodstream this tea helps 2298 02:03:39,430 --> 02:03:37,190 cleanse chemicals caused by outside 2299 02:03:42,129 --> 02:03:39,440 intruders from our entire digestive 2300 02:03:44,439 --> 02:03:42,139 system and get this weight loss can be a 2301 02:03:46,629 --> 02:03:44,449 side effect and with continued use of 2302 02:03:49,060 --> 02:03:46,639 the tea you can experience clearer 2303 02:03:51,729 --> 02:03:49,070 healthier younger looking skin increased 2304 02:03:53,140 --> 02:03:51,739 energy and a happier outlook on life so 2305 02:03:56,049 --> 02:03:53,150 if you're tired of being tired 2306 02:03:59,919 --> 02:03:56,059 get the life change tea at get the tea 2307 02:04:01,439 --> 02:03:59,929 calm that's get the tea calm and like me 2308 02:04:03,640 --> 02:04:01,449 you'll be glad you did 2309 02:04:05,350 --> 02:04:03,650 did you know that when you're on the 2310 02:04:07,810 --> 02:04:05,360 road with limited data or Wi-Fi 2311 02:04:09,729 --> 02:04:07,820 available you can still listen to every 2312 02:04:12,549 --> 02:04:09,739 minute of fade to black by just calling 2313 02:04:15,580 --> 02:04:12,559 six oh five five six two four four eight 2314 02:04:18,069 --> 02:04:15,590 two no smartphone app or Internet needed 2315 02:04:20,649 --> 02:04:18,079 it saves your data plan and no extra 2316 02:04:23,470 --> 02:04:20,659 cost if you have unlimited minutes just 2317 02:04:25,750 --> 02:04:23,480 call six oh five five six two four four 2318 02:04:28,359 --> 02:04:25,760 eight two you can listen to me Jimmy 2319 02:04:35,200 --> 02:04:28,369 Church on any phone anytime anywhere 2320 02:04:35,210 --> 02:04:39,260 [Music] 2321 02:04:46,610 --> 02:04:43,980 you wanna know a secret I love ponies I 2322 02:04:49,230 --> 02:04:46,620 really love ponies I'm serious I 2323 02:04:53,130 --> 02:04:49,240 couldn't stay stable without poor mr. 2324 02:04:58,370 --> 02:04:53,140 Brooks why fade to black because you 2325 02:05:02,370 --> 02:05:00,210 this is fade to black 2326 02:05:05,850 --> 02:05:02,380 with Jimmy Church on the game changer 2327 02:05:08,420 --> 02:05:05,860 radio network and K GRA the Global Radio 2328 02:05:21,640 --> 02:05:08,430 Alliance 2329 02:05:26,450 --> 02:05:24,439 all right welcome back fade to black 2330 02:05:29,359 --> 02:05:26,460 our mule super church what an amazing 2331 02:05:32,629 --> 02:05:29,369 conversation Christopher Dunham's our 2332 02:05:37,700 --> 02:05:32,639 guests night two of our Egypt week here 2333 02:05:40,339 --> 02:05:37,710 on fade to black and now okay Chris I'm 2334 02:05:42,140 --> 02:05:40,349 gonna go there with you right now and 2335 02:05:45,919 --> 02:05:42,150 these are some questions I've never 2336 02:05:50,180 --> 02:05:45,929 heard you not only address but have been 2337 02:05:52,220 --> 02:05:50,190 asked and now when I I've had many 2338 02:05:55,009 --> 02:05:52,230 conversations with with Graham and 2339 02:05:58,430 --> 02:05:55,019 Robert and and John Anthony West over 2340 02:06:00,770 --> 02:05:58,440 the years and one of the things and and 2341 02:06:04,790 --> 02:06:00,780 and Robert Schoch addresses us pretty 2342 02:06:07,879 --> 02:06:04,800 elegantly there are two a words we're 2343 02:06:11,540 --> 02:06:07,889 professionals won't go write a one is 2344 02:06:14,180 --> 02:06:11,550 Atlantis and the other one is aliens 2345 02:06:17,149 --> 02:06:14,190 right and they protect themselves it's a 2346 02:06:19,100 --> 02:06:17,159 zone that they are reticent to go into 2347 02:06:21,739 --> 02:06:19,110 but I'm going to ask you this directly 2348 02:06:31,370 --> 02:06:21,749 have you ever seen anything strange in 2349 02:06:36,310 --> 02:06:31,380 the sky no I mean not really no no you 2350 02:06:39,739 --> 02:06:36,320 know I know y'all have any any contact 2351 02:06:41,049 --> 02:06:39,749 experiences or see you seeing what I I 2352 02:06:44,209 --> 02:06:41,059 think 2353 02:06:54,649 --> 02:06:44,219 mysterious lights or UFOs would you like 2354 02:06:57,259 --> 02:06:54,659 to oh yeah I mean you need to come hang 2355 02:06:59,989 --> 02:06:57,269 out with us the the invitation is open 2356 02:07:02,270 --> 02:06:59,999 you need to come out and we'll break out 2357 02:07:04,700 --> 02:07:02,280 them the night vision and and and just 2358 02:07:07,790 --> 02:07:04,710 go out and and experience that together 2359 02:07:12,350 --> 02:07:07,800 because it's an epiphany when it happens 2360 02:07:16,399 --> 02:07:12,360 and you your brain gets confused because 2361 02:07:19,729 --> 02:07:16,409 you're assuming the safe zone of trying 2362 02:07:22,489 --> 02:07:19,739 to explain it away as a satellite or you 2363 02:07:24,709 --> 02:07:22,499 know it's it's it's terrestrial and then 2364 02:07:26,450 --> 02:07:24,719 you know that it's not and it's great 2365 02:07:30,080 --> 02:07:26,460 when I see somebody go through that the 2366 02:07:32,990 --> 02:07:30,090 first time it's an amazing thing 2367 02:07:37,550 --> 02:07:33,000 well well you should know I'm a I'm a 2368 02:07:41,419 --> 02:07:37,560 born skeptic I know I know see you're 2369 02:07:45,339 --> 02:07:41,429 primed and ready your victim your future 2370 02:07:48,680 --> 02:07:45,349 victim yeah absolutely and we will do it 2371 02:07:52,490 --> 02:07:48,690 we will get that out of the way but what 2372 02:07:54,530 --> 02:07:52,500 about the the ancient alien theory and a 2373 02:07:56,720 --> 02:07:54,540 hypothesis that has been laid out 2374 02:07:59,359 --> 02:07:56,730 certainly since erich von daniken but 2375 02:08:02,720 --> 02:07:59,369 but today it's part of our pop culture 2376 02:08:06,700 --> 02:08:02,730 it's part of what what makes us us today 2377 02:08:13,330 --> 02:08:06,710 where are you in in in that position I 2378 02:08:17,810 --> 02:08:13,340 think I am closer to Robert Schoch than 2379 02:08:22,160 --> 02:08:17,820 then define people who you know frequent 2380 02:08:29,180 --> 02:08:22,170 not that particular program the I am I 2381 02:08:31,609 --> 02:08:29,190 mean the aliens and Atlantis I have I 2382 02:08:35,689 --> 02:08:31,619 have too much respect for the Egyptian 2383 02:08:39,890 --> 02:08:35,699 culture and what they have suffered over 2384 02:08:44,479 --> 02:08:39,900 the years in terms of people coming in 2385 02:08:46,129 --> 02:08:44,489 and stripping them their heritage away 2386 02:08:50,149 --> 02:08:46,139 from them and you know these were 2387 02:08:51,950 --> 02:08:50,159 earlier earlier conquerors you know 2388 02:08:55,129 --> 02:08:51,960 whether it be the French and the British 2389 02:08:58,660 --> 02:08:55,139 and the hauling off their artifacts that 2390 02:09:01,520 --> 02:08:58,670 now said in museums all over the world 2391 02:09:04,280 --> 02:09:01,530 and which you know the Egyptians feel 2392 02:09:09,080 --> 02:09:04,290 like they were you know they were badly 2393 02:09:12,109 --> 02:09:09,090 done too and and so there is kind of 2394 02:09:15,830 --> 02:09:12,119 like area the the New Age Marauders who 2395 02:09:18,379 --> 02:09:15,840 come in and and they want to strip them 2396 02:09:21,890 --> 02:09:18,389 of their cultural heritage by saying 2397 02:09:24,050 --> 02:09:21,900 that they were not responsible for their 2398 02:09:27,919 --> 02:09:24,060 ancestors were not responsible for what 2399 02:09:33,350 --> 02:09:27,929 exists in Egypt and do you bear some 2400 02:09:39,649 --> 02:09:33,360 responsibility in that view though you 2401 02:09:42,419 --> 02:09:39,659 know I I I may be seeing to bear some 2402 02:09:47,059 --> 02:09:42,429 responsibility and 2403 02:09:54,799 --> 02:09:47,069 I was asked to be on ancient aliens and 2404 02:09:59,270 --> 02:09:54,809 in my you know my mode of operation a 2405 02:10:04,219 --> 02:09:59,280 policy has always been I'm not going to 2406 02:10:09,029 --> 02:10:04,229 you know I'm not going to judge or 2407 02:10:11,399 --> 02:10:09,039 insult somebody by saying well if you're 2408 02:10:15,179 --> 02:10:11,409 going to be talking if your belief is in 2409 02:10:17,699 --> 02:10:15,189 say Bible studies or you know by 2410 02:10:21,929 --> 02:10:17,709 Biblical Archaeology then I'm not going 2411 02:10:24,629 --> 02:10:21,939 to share my work with you or if you if 2412 02:10:27,239 --> 02:10:24,639 your belief is that everything was done 2413 02:10:30,149 --> 02:10:27,249 by ancient aliens that I'm not going to 2414 02:10:33,540 --> 02:10:30,159 share your work with but I do like to be 2415 02:10:36,329 --> 02:10:33,550 able to provide my opinion on that and 2416 02:10:38,459 --> 02:10:36,339 when I was asked to do ancient aliens I 2417 02:10:41,969 --> 02:10:38,469 asked them if I could comment on that 2418 02:10:43,799 --> 02:10:41,979 and give them back in your ass and I you 2419 02:10:49,529 --> 02:10:43,809 know I was very clear and in the 2420 02:10:54,000 --> 02:10:49,539 interview that it's it's here you can't 2421 02:10:56,549 --> 02:10:54,010 just solely say everything is it was 2422 02:10:59,750 --> 02:10:56,559 done by aliens and you know that there 2423 02:11:03,599 --> 02:10:59,760 are other possible reasons why these 2424 02:11:06,509 --> 02:11:03,609 artifacts exist and and so you just 2425 02:11:09,839 --> 02:11:06,519 can't you know just lump it all in one 2426 02:11:12,059 --> 02:11:09,849 all-encompassing idea because I think 2427 02:11:13,469 --> 02:11:12,069 you make a lot of mistakes then you 2428 02:11:17,969 --> 02:11:13,479 start throwing everything but the 2429 02:11:20,759 --> 02:11:17,979 bathtub in into into the formation of 2430 02:11:22,409 --> 02:11:20,769 this kind of ideology unless you know 2431 02:11:26,129 --> 02:11:22,419 they were happy for me to comment on 2432 02:11:28,379 --> 02:11:26,139 that but I say happy I'm not sure well 2433 02:11:30,899 --> 02:11:28,389 happy well I guess I do know how happy 2434 02:11:33,389 --> 02:11:30,909 they were because my comments didn't 2435 02:11:37,379 --> 02:11:33,399 make it to the show ended up on the 2436 02:11:41,639 --> 02:11:37,389 cutting room floor so huh but I'm not 2437 02:11:45,869 --> 02:11:41,649 yeah I would say I'm more in I'm I want 2438 02:11:50,879 --> 02:11:45,879 to I want to build up the Egyptians in 2439 02:11:53,639 --> 02:11:50,889 terms of their self-esteem and pride in 2440 02:11:55,350 --> 02:11:53,649 their in their cultural heritage and I 2441 02:11:58,430 --> 02:11:55,360 think that when you 2442 02:12:01,740 --> 02:11:58,440 go there and you claim that their 2443 02:12:04,140 --> 02:12:01,750 ancestors were not responsible for that 2444 02:12:07,230 --> 02:12:04,150 work that it was Outsiders that came in 2445 02:12:10,230 --> 02:12:07,240 and done it then you've got you you lose 2446 02:12:13,260 --> 02:12:10,240 you lose them and I don't want to lose 2447 02:12:16,650 --> 02:12:13,270 the the interest of the Egyptians I want 2448 02:12:19,770 --> 02:12:16,660 to nurture it and encourage it certainly 2449 02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:19,780 and everything is taught we understand 2450 02:12:22,950 --> 02:12:21,370 that you were taught I was taught 2451 02:12:27,500 --> 02:12:22,960 everybody was taught the ancient 2452 02:12:30,870 --> 02:12:27,510 Egyptians were taught and whether that 2453 02:12:33,660 --> 02:12:30,880 information it came to them to allow 2454 02:12:36,030 --> 02:12:33,670 their civilization to be upright and 2455 02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:36,040 functional you know seemingly overnight 2456 02:12:42,690 --> 02:12:39,010 at 3000 BC whether it was from an 2457 02:12:45,870 --> 02:12:42,700 ancient high technology civilization 2458 02:12:47,760 --> 02:12:45,880 from 1020 thousand years ago and you had 2459 02:12:50,190 --> 02:12:47,770 some stragglers that came in and shared 2460 02:12:53,250 --> 02:12:50,200 that information or if they came from 2461 02:12:56,640 --> 02:12:53,260 the stars or it was channeled or it was 2462 02:13:00,240 --> 02:12:56,650 divine it doesn't really matter to me 2463 02:13:04,080 --> 02:13:00,250 does it that the Egyptians got the 2464 02:13:07,050 --> 02:13:04,090 information from somewhere just like we 2465 02:13:11,100 --> 02:13:07,060 get our information from somewhere when 2466 02:13:13,950 --> 02:13:11,110 we're designing inventing and building 2467 02:13:18,600 --> 02:13:13,960 up products right right I mean I think 2468 02:13:20,910 --> 02:13:18,610 you know the the Cartesian view on in 2469 02:13:25,620 --> 02:13:20,920 separating you know the material from 2470 02:13:32,130 --> 02:13:25,630 the spiritual in terms of inspiration 2471 02:13:33,930 --> 02:13:32,140 and design I I don't think he's I don't 2472 02:13:37,170 --> 02:13:33,940 know I don't think he can take spirit 2473 02:13:40,680 --> 02:13:37,180 off the table but it is created a bit of 2474 02:13:43,470 --> 02:13:40,690 a dichotomy where people think well if 2475 02:13:46,170 --> 02:13:43,480 you are spiritual then you're not 2476 02:13:49,830 --> 02:13:46,180 Material or if you're a materialism when 2477 02:13:55,320 --> 02:13:49,840 you can't can't be spiritual but I I 2478 02:13:59,150 --> 02:13:55,330 know I've met more practical engineer 2479 02:14:01,260 --> 02:13:59,160 types and technical types who are 2480 02:14:03,950 --> 02:14:01,270 spiritual more of the more of those than 2481 02:14:07,080 --> 02:14:03,960 people who claim to be spiritual and you 2482 02:14:14,910 --> 02:14:07,090 know and the new-age kind of move 2483 02:14:17,250 --> 02:14:14,920 so and I I see I don't see I don't see a 2484 02:14:23,090 --> 02:14:17,260 difference I mean everything is based on 2485 02:14:27,450 --> 02:14:23,100 on on spirit everything that exists is 2486 02:14:33,240 --> 02:14:27,460 is produced through inspired thought and 2487 02:14:35,600 --> 02:14:33,250 and worked and how can you separate you 2488 02:14:40,350 --> 02:14:35,610 know the spirit or the spiritual nature 2489 02:14:42,750 --> 02:14:40,360 from from those activities well you say 2490 02:14:45,510 --> 02:14:42,760 something very interesting when you 2491 02:14:48,930 --> 02:14:45,520 suggest you know it just came to me the 2492 02:14:51,870 --> 02:14:48,940 idea for the Giza power plant I I had a 2493 02:14:55,860 --> 02:14:51,880 vision the you know green hieroglyphics 2494 02:15:01,490 --> 02:14:55,870 that that's a very spiritual moment to 2495 02:15:04,050 --> 02:15:01,500 me but then and then but your 2496 02:15:08,540 --> 02:15:04,060 presentation I don't know if you realize 2497 02:15:13,170 --> 02:15:08,550 this or not but your presentation on the 2498 02:15:15,780 --> 02:15:13,180 Ramses statue and its symmetry it's 3d 2499 02:15:17,340 --> 02:15:15,790 nests it's spherical nough sand its 2500 02:15:21,090 --> 02:15:17,350 construction from an engineering 2501 02:15:25,050 --> 02:15:21,100 standpoint is so compelling and so good 2502 02:15:27,090 --> 02:15:25,060 Chris that it causes people like me to 2503 02:15:31,370 --> 02:15:27,100 sit back and go it must have been aliens 2504 02:15:34,740 --> 02:15:31,380 [Laughter] 2505 02:15:36,990 --> 02:15:34,750 yeah and I could understand that I mean 2506 02:15:40,160 --> 02:15:37,000 III do I can understand that I don't 2507 02:15:46,530 --> 02:15:42,720 you know how good that was 2508 02:15:50,340 --> 02:15:46,540 right and the research in the way that 2509 02:15:53,370 --> 02:15:50,350 you have presented this I have gone back 2510 02:15:57,120 --> 02:15:53,380 and reviewed your presentations on this 2511 02:16:00,030 --> 02:15:57,130 over and over again and flipping that 2512 02:16:03,990 --> 02:16:00,040 face over right and looking at it I 2513 02:16:08,790 --> 02:16:04,000 can't even tell which is which is right 2514 02:16:11,070 --> 02:16:08,800 and wrong and and it is so good that you 2515 02:16:12,729 --> 02:16:11,080 have caused people to go back and 2516 02:16:15,100 --> 02:16:12,739 rethink their 2517 02:16:16,840 --> 02:16:15,110 they're their own mind the way that they 2518 02:16:21,250 --> 02:16:16,850 have been convinced over the years here 2519 02:16:25,740 --> 02:16:21,260 it's your fault man well I've had a lot 2520 02:16:30,490 --> 02:16:25,750 of help it's not just me I yeah I mean 2521 02:16:34,110 --> 02:16:30,500 I've had an enormous amount of help 2522 02:16:37,140 --> 02:16:34,120 along my path and I've been blessed to 2523 02:16:40,900 --> 02:16:37,150 have people come into my life through a 2524 02:16:43,650 --> 02:16:40,910 extremely intelligent extremely talented 2525 02:16:46,870 --> 02:16:43,660 and knowledgeable 2526 02:16:48,940 --> 02:16:46,880 scientists physicists engineers that 2527 02:16:51,310 --> 02:16:48,950 have helped me along the way and are 2528 02:16:53,500 --> 02:16:51,320 still helping them I mean the team I 2529 02:16:56,160 --> 02:16:53,510 have now I can't I can't say enough 2530 02:16:58,660 --> 02:16:56,170 about them they're just brilliant people 2531 02:17:02,230 --> 02:16:58,670 in fact you should have the mountain and 2532 02:17:05,290 --> 02:17:02,240 talk to talk to some of my well you know 2533 02:17:11,070 --> 02:17:05,300 my research associates absolutely it 2534 02:17:16,810 --> 02:17:11,080 blow you away absolutely you know 2535 02:17:19,270 --> 02:17:16,820 there's there's one point and Manu and I 2536 02:17:22,959 --> 02:17:19,280 touched upon it last night I try to 2537 02:17:26,280 --> 02:17:22,969 revisit this once a month or so but 2538 02:17:31,030 --> 02:17:26,290 there's one point it's a large one that 2539 02:17:35,200 --> 02:17:31,040 I can't convince myself up and that is 2540 02:17:38,440 --> 02:17:35,210 when you compile the logistics on top of 2541 02:17:40,209 --> 02:17:38,450 each other the 20 years and two and a 2542 02:17:42,669 --> 02:17:40,219 half million blocks and two minutes per 2543 02:17:45,370 --> 02:17:42,679 stone that's been run in the ground but 2544 02:17:51,100 --> 02:17:45,380 it's a very valid point but if you back 2545 02:17:55,270 --> 02:17:51,110 off of that and you go to 500 miles to 2546 02:17:57,969 --> 02:17:55,280 Aswan and you know 130 granite blocks 2547 02:18:01,089 --> 02:17:57,979 that that somehow to had to get 2548 02:18:03,339 --> 02:18:01,099 transported and quarried that takes time 2549 02:18:05,049 --> 02:18:03,349 and it doesn't fit into the 20 year 2550 02:18:08,110 --> 02:18:05,059 window if you're dragging those blocks 2551 02:18:10,660 --> 02:18:08,120 across the desert for 500 miles at a 2552 02:18:13,930 --> 02:18:10,670 foot per minute you're looking at 50 to 2553 02:18:17,110 --> 02:18:13,940 100 years right well that that that 2554 02:18:20,259 --> 02:18:17,120 takes that out and if you threw it in a 2555 02:18:24,310 --> 02:18:20,269 boat or barge the barge would sink with 2556 02:18:26,230 --> 02:18:24,320 a 70-ton granite block in it so there's 2557 02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:26,240 that part and then you have 2558 02:18:30,190 --> 02:18:28,250 the amount of people that would have to 2559 02:18:33,669 --> 02:18:30,200 be involved that would have to be fed 2560 02:18:35,740 --> 02:18:33,679 and clothed and and worked not only for 2561 02:18:39,580 --> 02:18:35,750 the Great Pyramid for all of the 2562 02:18:43,600 --> 02:18:39,590 pyramids over a 200 year period and the 2563 02:18:46,690 --> 02:18:43,610 logistics just don't fit we start to 2564 02:18:49,209 --> 02:18:46,700 calculate thousands of years not not 2565 02:18:51,879 --> 02:18:49,219 twenty years per pyramid it just doesn't 2566 02:18:54,219 --> 02:18:51,889 fit that's the way you're an engineer 2567 02:18:55,750 --> 02:18:54,229 you look at all of these things when you 2568 02:18:58,450 --> 02:18:55,760 go into a project 2569 02:19:01,839 --> 02:18:58,460 it just doesn't how do you how do you 2570 02:19:06,820 --> 02:19:01,849 try to explain this in your own mindset 2571 02:19:08,680 --> 02:19:06,830 or can you oh my god no I don't think we 2572 02:19:10,930 --> 02:19:08,690 have enough time tonight I know right 2573 02:19:14,379 --> 02:19:10,940 you're gonna have to reschedule me up 2574 02:19:18,160 --> 02:19:14,389 because I that is a that is a 2575 02:19:20,259 --> 02:19:18,170 fascinating fascinating subject and I 2576 02:19:22,719 --> 02:19:20,269 was actually chomping at the bit to talk 2577 02:19:25,570 --> 02:19:22,729 talk to you about I'd have to listen in 2578 02:19:28,509 --> 02:19:25,580 to your interview with my new which was 2579 02:19:31,690 --> 02:19:28,519 absolutely marvelous interview what a 2580 02:19:35,919 --> 02:19:31,700 wonderful man yes he's amazing amazing 2581 02:19:41,830 --> 02:19:35,929 guy and I just loved every minute of it 2582 02:19:43,209 --> 02:19:41,840 but that subject yeah it I don't think 2583 02:19:45,969 --> 02:19:43,219 we have enough time Jimmy well let's 2584 02:19:50,040 --> 02:19:45,979 let's let's let's visit this I mean how 2585 02:19:53,980 --> 02:19:50,050 how is I think part of it Chris's 2586 02:19:56,200 --> 02:19:53,990 researchers like yourself and others are 2587 02:20:00,520 --> 02:19:56,210 giving us the knowledge that we didn't 2588 02:20:03,070 --> 02:20:00,530 have 20 30 40 50 years ago to to digest 2589 02:20:05,260 --> 02:20:03,080 this but I think today we're starting to 2590 02:20:09,400 --> 02:20:05,270 understand that it just from a 2591 02:20:16,890 --> 02:20:09,410 logistical point of view there was not 2592 02:20:19,200 --> 02:20:16,900 enough time well I would disagree oh 2593 02:20:25,000 --> 02:20:19,210 let's go let's go 2594 02:20:26,790 --> 02:20:25,010 perfect answer mr. Dunn no I mean it 2595 02:20:31,150 --> 02:20:26,800 depends on how you look at a project 2596 02:20:37,000 --> 02:20:31,160 right okay I'll get I'll give you a an 2597 02:20:37,930 --> 02:20:37,010 example we talked about the the Great 2598 02:20:41,710 --> 02:20:37,940 Pyramid being 2599 02:20:46,540 --> 02:20:41,720 level within 7/8 of an inch over 13 2600 02:20:49,780 --> 02:20:46,550 acres and then we talk about well how 2601 02:20:54,970 --> 02:20:49,790 were they able to achieve that precision 2602 02:20:59,470 --> 02:20:54,980 and and build all those courses of 2603 02:21:03,011 --> 02:20:59,480 limestone with this perfect next area 2604 02:21:07,270 --> 02:21:03,021 you know the casing stone it will take a 2605 02:21:10,150 --> 02:21:07,280 tremendous amount of time and the if 2606 02:21:14,440 --> 02:21:10,160 you're building the pyramid from the 2607 02:21:17,530 --> 02:21:14,450 inside out and you're you have to level 2608 02:21:20,110 --> 02:21:17,540 the entire site to within those 2609 02:21:24,640 --> 02:21:20,120 tolerances then you've got an enormous 2610 02:21:27,881 --> 02:21:24,650 amount of work but I don't think we're 2611 02:21:33,460 --> 02:21:27,891 thinking about the the problem the 2612 02:21:37,240 --> 02:21:33,470 correct way and engineering in tool 2613 02:21:41,830 --> 02:21:37,250 design machine design if you are to say 2614 02:21:47,110 --> 02:21:41,840 we were to look at the Great Pyramid 2615 02:21:49,870 --> 02:21:47,120 like a machine or a collection of parts 2616 02:21:52,710 --> 02:21:49,880 that you had to fit together and come up 2617 02:21:57,730 --> 02:21:52,720 with that final product where you have 2618 02:21:59,560 --> 02:21:57,740 7/8 of an inch over 13 acres were 2619 02:22:03,011 --> 02:21:59,570 aligned to true north within three 2620 02:22:07,150 --> 02:22:03,021 minutes of a degree and then have that 2621 02:22:11,560 --> 02:22:07,160 you know that pyramid angle was 52 2622 02:22:15,850 --> 02:22:11,570 minutes 50 51 51 degrees 51 minutes 14 2623 02:22:18,551 --> 02:22:15,860 seconds then you would have it would be 2624 02:22:23,051 --> 02:22:18,561 quite a puzzle but you can simplify it 2625 02:22:27,490 --> 02:22:23,061 very much if you say okay what we don't 2626 02:22:30,460 --> 02:22:27,500 know how far the pavement extends under 2627 02:22:36,360 --> 02:22:30,470 those under those casing blocks and if I 2628 02:22:39,570 --> 02:22:36,370 was to design that the pyramid the the 2629 02:22:45,990 --> 02:22:39,580 pavement where the casing blocks said 2630 02:22:50,080 --> 02:22:46,000 would only go as far as maybe two to 2631 02:22:51,410 --> 02:22:50,090 both blocks in in other words only the 2632 02:22:53,450 --> 02:22:51,420 casing stones 2633 02:22:58,160 --> 02:22:53,460 would need to sit on such a perfectly 2634 02:23:02,750 --> 02:22:58,170 flat surface I'm with you I'm with you 2635 02:23:05,780 --> 02:23:02,760 okay you follow me I am it only the 2636 02:23:07,280 --> 02:23:05,790 casing stones and then if you say are 2637 02:23:12,740 --> 02:23:07,290 you were going to build your casing 2638 02:23:14,389 --> 02:23:12,750 stones very very precisely if you're 2639 02:23:17,599 --> 02:23:14,399 going to be building the pyramid too 2640 02:23:19,370 --> 02:23:17,609 from the inside out then you would have 2641 02:23:22,969 --> 02:23:19,380 an accumulation of error and you'd have 2642 02:23:25,880 --> 02:23:22,979 all kinds of problems but if you cut 2643 02:23:28,490 --> 02:23:25,890 your casing stones very precisely and 2644 02:23:31,189 --> 02:23:28,500 you set them down on that level pavement 2645 02:23:35,059 --> 02:23:31,199 now remember that you're leaving the 2646 02:23:37,969 --> 02:23:35,069 rest of the bedrock untouched so you 2647 02:23:41,719 --> 02:23:37,979 have and actually that that is true that 2648 02:23:43,010 --> 02:23:41,729 they do have a rise in in the bedrock in 2649 02:23:46,490 --> 02:23:43,020 the center yes 2650 02:23:50,330 --> 02:23:46,500 Center yes I think that rise goes 2651 02:23:55,399 --> 02:23:50,340 further out to you know to the house out 2652 02:23:58,070 --> 02:23:55,409 of courses but if you build it by just 2653 02:24:02,860 --> 02:23:58,080 erect it just placing the casing stones 2654 02:24:06,679 --> 02:24:02,870 first which you would need to align and 2655 02:24:12,469 --> 02:24:06,689 lay down very precisely and you know but 2656 02:24:14,030 --> 02:24:12,479 them up together and then just do it do 2657 02:24:15,679 --> 02:24:14,040 the outside make sure everything is 2658 02:24:20,689 --> 02:24:15,689 aligned and then you backfill it with 2659 02:24:23,210 --> 02:24:20,699 blocks to fill in the core masonry yeah 2660 02:24:27,380 --> 02:24:23,220 I've thought about this and I've seen 2661 02:24:29,719 --> 02:24:27,390 some ideas with this where the 2662 02:24:31,639 --> 02:24:29,729 foundation stones don't go straight 2663 02:24:35,090 --> 02:24:31,649 through it's just it's it's like a 2664 02:24:36,889 --> 02:24:35,100 picture frame right and that's on the 2665 02:24:39,710 --> 02:24:36,899 outside and then they're building from 2666 02:24:41,780 --> 02:24:39,720 the outside in and there are a concern 2667 02:24:44,809 --> 02:24:41,790 with any tolerances anywhere because 2668 02:24:49,189 --> 02:24:44,819 it's rubble its dirt its fill rock and 2669 02:24:51,979 --> 02:24:49,199 and it's actually very very very simple 2670 02:24:54,710 --> 02:24:51,989 it's beautiful on the outside on the 2671 02:24:56,599 --> 02:24:54,720 inside it's garbage right and that's 2672 02:24:59,990 --> 02:24:56,609 what you're suggesting and then if you 2673 02:25:00,970 --> 02:25:00,000 build well not garbage but you know it's 2674 02:25:03,730 --> 02:25:00,980 full or me 2675 02:25:06,310 --> 02:25:03,740 they were calling I mean they could they 2676 02:25:08,320 --> 02:25:06,320 could place the casing stones very 2677 02:25:11,081 --> 02:25:08,330 precisely the same height all around and 2678 02:25:14,791 --> 02:25:11,091 then call for blocks to back it back it 2679 02:25:18,461 --> 02:25:14,801 up and then just build lay them down 2680 02:25:22,451 --> 02:25:18,471 true - towards the center yeah that's my 2681 02:25:28,650 --> 02:25:22,461 - later Talmud also builds up a very 2682 02:25:32,171 --> 02:25:28,660 very precise shafts and passageways 2683 02:25:36,730 --> 02:25:32,181 before they backed those features up 2684 02:25:39,551 --> 02:25:36,740 with core masonry - yeah and I talked 2685 02:25:41,831 --> 02:25:39,561 about this last night with Manu and I 2686 02:25:46,421 --> 02:25:41,841 know that you listened to the to the 2687 02:25:50,581 --> 02:25:46,431 show last night the if we accept that it 2688 02:25:54,100 --> 02:25:50,591 was built and however it was built I 2689 02:25:57,041 --> 02:25:54,110 still go back to the the the very 2690 02:25:59,801 --> 02:25:57,051 confusing issues that I have with the 2691 02:26:03,280 --> 02:25:59,811 shafts with the King's Chamber with the 2692 02:26:08,560 --> 02:26:03,290 Queen's Chamber with the Grand Gallery 2693 02:26:11,261 --> 02:26:08,570 and how you have to build around those 2694 02:26:14,140 --> 02:26:11,271 perfectly straight shafts it's an 2695 02:26:19,270 --> 02:26:14,150 engineering nightmare if I presented you 2696 02:26:21,730 --> 02:26:19,280 Chris with this idea today you would 2697 02:26:33,551 --> 02:26:21,740 tell me to go take a hike what's your 2698 02:26:36,430 --> 02:26:33,561 idea dad to build a Great Pyramid you 2699 02:26:38,501 --> 02:26:36,440 know that's I don't know how they did 2700 02:26:40,961 --> 02:26:38,511 the shafts I don't know how they did the 2701 02:26:42,011 --> 02:26:40,971 Grand Gallery it's like what came first 2702 02:26:43,900 --> 02:26:42,021 the chicken or the egg 2703 02:26:45,911 --> 02:26:43,910 and I've ultimate now I've almost 2704 02:26:48,610 --> 02:26:45,921 imagined them building the Grand Gallery 2705 02:26:50,320 --> 02:26:48,620 out like it was some kind of temple 2706 02:26:51,911 --> 02:26:50,330 first and they just built the Pyramid 2707 02:26:54,371 --> 02:26:51,921 around it and filled it in 2708 02:26:56,341 --> 02:26:54,381 well the design of the shafts and the 2709 02:26:59,740 --> 02:26:56,351 way they were built they would have 2710 02:27:03,610 --> 02:26:59,750 created a plane at the angle that they 2711 02:27:07,930 --> 02:27:03,620 they desired and while while you were 2712 02:27:12,791 --> 02:27:07,940 still open to to the sky the the shafts 2713 02:27:14,960 --> 02:27:12,801 actually have the block with a channel 2714 02:27:18,170 --> 02:27:14,970 running through it upturned and sitting 2715 02:27:22,330 --> 02:27:18,180 on a flat surface and a flat surface you 2716 02:27:25,820 --> 02:27:22,340 could have aligned without you know the 2717 02:27:28,010 --> 02:27:25,830 an open in the open space without the 2718 02:27:30,620 --> 02:27:28,020 constraints of saying okay how do we do 2719 02:27:33,469 --> 02:27:30,630 this with with these very very small 2720 02:27:36,889 --> 02:27:33,479 openings we so have to slot the blocks 2721 02:27:38,870 --> 02:27:36,899 even if those slots were big slots and 2722 02:27:42,530 --> 02:27:38,880 you blocked them in on the inside with 2723 02:27:44,690 --> 02:27:42,540 smaller blocks which appears in in gate 2724 02:27:47,660 --> 02:27:44,700 and brings video that that was indeed 2725 02:27:51,650 --> 02:27:47,670 the case I see all of that but you still 2726 02:27:54,170 --> 02:27:51,660 have to slot the larger blocks yeah it 2727 02:27:58,219 --> 02:27:54,180 could be done I mean it could be done 2728 02:28:00,620 --> 02:27:58,229 I'm not saying it would be easy but it 2729 02:28:06,740 --> 02:28:00,630 could be done I want to thank you when 2730 02:28:07,760 --> 02:28:06,750 can I get you back on the show that's 2731 02:28:10,040 --> 02:28:07,770 the right answer 2732 02:28:16,610 --> 02:28:10,050 are you are you heading over to Egypt 2733 02:28:20,840 --> 02:28:16,620 again I have a tour that I'm taking and 2734 02:28:24,950 --> 02:28:20,850 taking people to Egypt in March of 2019 2735 02:28:27,440 --> 02:28:24,960 there is a link on my on my page on my 2736 02:28:29,030 --> 02:28:27,450 front page it's the lost technology 2737 02:28:31,969 --> 02:28:29,040 store of Egypt 2738 02:28:34,010 --> 02:28:31,979 I got it I've got it 19 right I've got 2739 02:28:35,990 --> 02:28:34,020 it right here and the links are up at 2740 02:28:39,679 --> 02:28:36,000 Jimmy Church radio.com will put it up in 2741 02:28:42,050 --> 02:28:39,689 Twitter right yeah and and and my 2742 02:28:44,450 --> 02:28:42,060 pleasure Chris and let's don't take five 2743 02:28:46,550 --> 02:28:44,460 years to do it again if you're heading 2744 02:28:48,979 --> 02:28:46,560 over to Egypt in March then we'll get 2745 02:28:54,080 --> 02:28:48,989 you on the show before that and then 2746 02:28:55,729 --> 02:28:54,090 when you return how is that pleasure 2747 02:28:58,250 --> 02:28:55,739 thank you so much fascinating 2748 02:29:00,440 --> 02:28:58,260 conversation Chris and again for me and 2749 02:29:03,410 --> 02:29:00,450 the community just thank you for 2750 02:29:06,260 --> 02:29:03,420 everything that you do and continue to 2751 02:29:09,080 --> 02:29:06,270 do you are so important to all of us 2752 02:29:11,210 --> 02:29:09,090 thank you so much sir oh thank you very 2753 02:29:13,729 --> 02:29:11,220 much Jimmy I appreciate it and happy 2754 02:29:17,929 --> 02:29:13,739 birthday thank you so much Chris hey 2755 02:29:20,660 --> 02:29:17,939 when are you on Twitter hey you know I 2756 02:29:23,510 --> 02:29:20,670 have a Twitter account but I don't 2757 02:29:29,190 --> 02:29:23,520 Twitter I mean I I don't post on it you 2758 02:29:35,700 --> 02:29:32,490 oh but Chris you are amazing thank you 2759 02:29:37,860 --> 02:29:35,710 so much what a great conversation thank 2760 02:29:40,950 --> 02:29:37,870 you thank you so much Christopher done 2761 02:29:44,400 --> 02:29:40,960 his website of course is Giza power 2762 02:29:47,670 --> 02:29:44,410 dot-com all of the information for his 2763 02:29:50,810 --> 02:29:47,680 tour in March is right there and the 2764 02:29:54,060 --> 02:29:50,820 links are over at Jimmy Church radio.com 2765 02:29:57,091 --> 02:29:54,070 and I'm going to take a quick break and 2766 02:29:59,400 --> 02:29:57,101 I'll swing back around and open up the 2767 02:30:00,930 --> 02:29:59,410 phone lines and we'll chat with 2768 02:30:02,250 --> 02:30:00,940 everybody all right I'll be right back 2769 02:30:06,960 --> 02:30:02,260 this is fade to black 2770 02:30:09,240 --> 02:30:06,970 can follow me on twitter @jj is Jimmy 2771 02:30:13,230 --> 02:30:09,250 and Jimmy Church radio calm what a great 2772 02:30:17,420 --> 02:30:13,240 conversation gzip our.com I'm your Simba 2773 02:30:41,620 --> 02:30:38,429 [Music] 2774 02:30:46,840 --> 02:30:41,630 and you are listening to my boy Jimmy 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02:35:12,460 --> 02:35:08,270 I want to thank Christopher Dunn that 2859 02:35:16,099 --> 02:35:12,470 that is a cool dude right there 2860 02:35:19,340 --> 02:35:16,109 unbelievable conversation and I've got 2861 02:35:23,300 --> 02:35:19,350 like a hundred highlights from tonight 2862 02:35:28,280 --> 02:35:23,310 that I will never forget and he's never 2863 02:35:32,269 --> 02:35:28,290 seen a UFO wants to write and his 2864 02:35:35,870 --> 02:35:32,279 support of the Egyptian culture is 2865 02:35:40,309 --> 02:35:35,880 paramount and that is very very very 2866 02:35:43,460 --> 02:35:40,319 impressive right there and the the the 2867 02:35:46,550 --> 02:35:43,470 the non tolerance theory right you build 2868 02:35:48,679 --> 02:35:46,560 it from the outside high high high 2869 02:35:50,599 --> 02:35:48,689 degree of tolerances and then you work 2870 02:35:51,820 --> 02:35:50,609 your way in where you're not worried 2871 02:35:54,170 --> 02:35:51,830 about that 2872 02:35:57,050 --> 02:35:54,180 right that's that's pretty interesting 2873 02:36:00,170 --> 02:35:57,060 you only need to worry about the outer 2874 02:36:04,639 --> 02:36:00,180 layers of being level and square and 2875 02:36:07,490 --> 02:36:04,649 true and and the casing stones but on 2876 02:36:11,179 --> 02:36:07,500 the inside it's all about speed right 2877 02:36:13,400 --> 02:36:11,189 and getting it done very very very cool 2878 02:36:17,960 --> 02:36:13,410 conversation thank you so much Chris and 2879 02:36:20,960 --> 02:36:17,970 again it's kiseop our.com and his tour 2880 02:36:22,340 --> 02:36:20,970 is in March and the information is right 2881 02:36:25,190 --> 02:36:22,350 there over at his website let's go to 2882 02:36:27,590 --> 02:36:25,200 the phones let's go to area code two to 2883 02:36:31,519 --> 02:36:27,600 five you're up first I'm fade to black 2884 02:36:35,059 --> 02:36:31,529 who's calling hey Palazzo how are you 2885 02:36:37,250 --> 02:36:35,069 doing hi Joe how are you man I'm doing 2886 02:36:41,870 --> 02:36:37,260 fantastic I just hit 51 the other day 2887 02:36:44,090 --> 02:36:41,880 and happy 55 to you 51 all right all 2888 02:36:47,900 --> 02:36:44,100 right yeah you vote you cross the 2889 02:36:49,969 --> 02:36:47,910 threshold last year yeah yeah it's 2890 02:37:00,229 --> 02:36:49,979 pretty dramatic when you go from 49 to 2891 02:37:02,840 --> 02:37:00,239 50 you know I see those commercials if 2892 02:37:05,240 --> 02:37:02,850 you are over 55 I'm like man I'm not 2893 02:37:09,880 --> 02:37:05,250 there yet but hey Here I am so all right 2894 02:37:15,511 --> 02:37:12,961 no he has departed he 2895 02:37:17,131 --> 02:37:15,521 out east man in it it's pretty late at 2896 02:37:21,480 --> 02:37:17,141 night I didn't I don't want to keep them 2897 02:37:23,430 --> 02:37:21,490 any further I was tempted to though my 2898 02:37:25,411 --> 02:37:23,440 question was regarding the you might 2899 02:37:26,850 --> 02:37:25,421 want to put your finger on the bleep 2900 02:37:30,571 --> 02:37:26,860 button here cuz I'm gonna try to say it 2901 02:37:33,390 --> 02:37:30,581 but the shift desk wasn't discussed and 2902 02:37:36,151 --> 02:37:33,400 I was curious if he had any knowledge of 2903 02:37:39,711 --> 02:37:36,161 what it was used for any hypothesis or 2904 02:37:41,551 --> 02:37:39,721 if he had seen any other devices that 2905 02:37:43,111 --> 02:37:41,561 looked like they were involved in 2906 02:37:44,640 --> 02:37:43,121 manufacturing some of the things that he 2907 02:37:47,071 --> 02:37:44,650 had seen and measured over there yeah I 2908 02:37:50,701 --> 02:37:47,081 know and that you know I didn't get to 2909 02:37:53,631 --> 02:37:50,711 that and I should have I have asked I've 2910 02:37:58,651 --> 02:37:53,641 asked jaws about that and and John are a 2911 02:38:00,600 --> 02:37:58,661 Robert Schoch and others because that 2912 02:38:05,100 --> 02:38:00,610 the first time that I saw it I was like 2913 02:38:09,001 --> 02:38:05,110 wait a minute here right let me ask you 2914 02:38:14,071 --> 02:38:09,011 what do you think I think it was a 2915 02:38:19,341 --> 02:38:14,081 ceiling fan right right okay 2916 02:38:22,531 --> 02:38:19,351 all right well it is it is definitely 2917 02:38:26,281 --> 02:38:22,541 beautiful right like it is so delicate 2918 02:38:29,251 --> 02:38:26,291 and it just doesn't look like a vase 2919 02:38:33,241 --> 02:38:29,261 right it doesn't look like a bowl it 2920 02:38:34,501 --> 02:38:33,251 doesn't look like a plate it doesn't you 2921 02:38:40,980 --> 02:38:34,511 know what I mean conventional things 2922 02:38:43,560 --> 02:38:40,990 that is that is done on purpose of to 2923 02:38:46,680 --> 02:38:43,570 function as something and it's too 2924 02:38:50,100 --> 02:38:46,690 beautiful I mean now okay but let me ask 2925 02:38:53,970 --> 02:38:50,110 you this Joe how was that 2926 02:38:58,020 --> 02:38:53,980 carved man that's a good question how 2927 02:39:00,631 --> 02:38:58,030 was it had to be cut it was cut and 2928 02:39:02,551 --> 02:39:00,641 bended you know bent I'm sorry 2929 02:39:05,881 --> 02:39:02,561 somehow it looks like it was cut and 2930 02:39:08,220 --> 02:39:05,891 bent with precision and it looks like it 2931 02:39:10,381 --> 02:39:08,230 was fun that like to be spun on an axle 2932 02:39:13,321 --> 02:39:10,391 right there's a whole there's a hole in 2933 02:39:16,651 --> 02:39:13,331 the middle I don't know if it was for 2934 02:39:19,801 --> 02:39:16,661 you know water propulsion or for moving 2935 02:39:21,390 --> 02:39:19,811 air for circulation or you know through 2936 02:39:23,341 --> 02:39:21,400 some of it because they still don't know 2937 02:39:26,100 --> 02:39:23,351 how they got air down in some of those 2938 02:39:26,729 --> 02:39:26,110 chambers to be able to work down that 2939 02:39:29,809 --> 02:39:26,739 deep 2940 02:39:33,960 --> 02:39:29,819 so it maybe was used to pump air through 2941 02:39:35,969 --> 02:39:33,970 you know some of the chambers no no okay 2942 02:39:41,969 --> 02:39:35,979 this is what's crazy I'm gonna throw 2943 02:39:46,650 --> 02:39:41,979 this out at you if it was carved right 2944 02:39:51,410 --> 02:39:46,660 carved with with somehow out of up out 2945 02:39:54,330 --> 02:39:51,420 of a block of stone then how was it 2946 02:39:59,479 --> 02:39:54,340 carved because it looks folded to me - 2947 02:40:04,620 --> 02:39:59,489 it looks melted it's so smooth and curvy 2948 02:40:09,360 --> 02:40:04,630 but if it was carved just picture as 2949 02:40:11,910 --> 02:40:09,370 some some artisan back then carving this 2950 02:40:15,300 --> 02:40:11,920 thing I mean how is that it is the 2951 02:40:18,290 --> 02:40:15,310 inside of it of - as well how are you 2952 02:40:21,330 --> 02:40:18,300 gonna carve and remove the stone 2953 02:40:24,000 --> 02:40:21,340 underneath the blades write the Ender's 2954 02:40:25,860 --> 02:40:24,010 haven't I'm saying yeah yeah I presumed 2955 02:40:28,769 --> 02:40:25,870 it was made of metal I did not know it 2956 02:40:31,349 --> 02:40:28,779 was made of stone now recently I saw a 2957 02:40:33,990 --> 02:40:31,359 video on YouTube I tweeted it a little 2958 02:40:36,840 --> 02:40:34,000 while ago but I saw a video on YouTube 2959 02:40:39,300 --> 02:40:36,850 where a guy was using like these copper 2960 02:40:42,090 --> 02:40:39,310 and bronze templates to vibrate and make 2961 02:40:43,410 --> 02:40:42,100 these impressions into stone and cut 2962 02:40:45,990 --> 02:40:43,420 through stone with it you know it was 2963 02:40:50,849 --> 02:40:46,000 kind of like the same process that the 2964 02:40:52,170 --> 02:40:50,859 vibrating cast removal you know that 2965 02:40:53,820 --> 02:40:52,180 doesn't cut you you know when you get a 2966 02:40:56,340 --> 02:40:53,830 cast removed and it doesn't cut you but 2967 02:40:57,479 --> 02:40:56,350 it cuts through the cast right yeah it 2968 02:40:59,639 --> 02:40:57,489 was that kind of technique like it was 2969 02:41:01,229 --> 02:40:59,649 vibrating at high frequency so maybe 2970 02:41:03,599 --> 02:41:01,239 they had a tool like that that was a 2971 02:41:06,090 --> 02:41:03,609 temple of metal template that they used 2972 02:41:07,349 --> 02:41:06,100 to vibrate at a high frequency somehow I 2973 02:41:10,349 --> 02:41:07,359 don't know I mean you have to use 2974 02:41:13,380 --> 02:41:10,359 electricity to do that in a modern sense 2975 02:41:15,179 --> 02:41:13,390 but how they carved something I did not 2976 02:41:18,179 --> 02:41:15,189 know it was made of stone that's you 2977 02:41:23,030 --> 02:41:18,189 just I don't know mind-blowing dude I 2978 02:41:26,760 --> 02:41:23,040 just had no idea now check this out okay 2979 02:41:29,670 --> 02:41:26,770 Egyptologists will tell you at the Cairo 2980 02:41:40,160 --> 02:41:29,680 Museum I hope you're sitting down that 2981 02:41:49,620 --> 02:41:46,219 now if that is a lotus flower vase Vaz 2982 02:41:52,920 --> 02:41:49,630 where are the other ones right or they 2983 02:41:55,769 --> 02:41:52,930 only made one there's lots of of Oz's 2984 02:41:58,170 --> 02:41:55,779 around Egypt there's tens of thousands 2985 02:42:01,710 --> 02:41:58,180 of them outside of I'm trying to think 2986 02:42:06,479 --> 02:42:01,720 of the pyramid that they were excavating 2987 02:42:10,849 --> 02:42:06,489 they found 40,000 vases bosses there 2988 02:42:13,319 --> 02:42:10,859 that even those when you look at those 2989 02:42:16,679 --> 02:42:13,329 you have to ask yourself how those were 2990 02:42:19,200 --> 02:42:16,689 made and nobody really wants to address 2991 02:42:22,530 --> 02:42:19,210 this you know because they're Orphic 2992 02:42:26,609 --> 02:42:22,540 they're perfect they're perfect you know 2993 02:42:29,370 --> 02:42:26,619 and he and now the pyramid I think they 2994 02:42:31,109 --> 02:42:29,380 found it I think it was I might be wrong 2995 02:42:33,179 --> 02:42:31,119 might be Khafre I think it was outside 2996 02:42:35,219 --> 02:42:33,189 of conferring the center the the middle 2997 02:42:38,280 --> 02:42:35,229 pyramid there they found these forty 2998 02:42:40,280 --> 02:42:38,290 thousand vases and they're all on 2999 02:42:43,109 --> 02:42:40,290 display a bunch of them are on display 3000 02:42:44,599 --> 02:42:43,119 but that does they don't talk about how 3001 02:42:47,340 --> 02:42:44,609 they were made 3002 02:42:50,969 --> 02:42:47,350 right they'll talk about what was inside 3003 02:42:55,620 --> 02:42:50,979 of them like who cares right I don't 3004 02:42:57,240 --> 02:42:55,630 care about wheat I don't care about dirt 3005 02:42:59,490 --> 02:42:57,250 I don't care what's inside of I want to 3006 02:43:02,359 --> 02:42:59,500 know how they made them because they're 3007 02:43:06,420 --> 02:43:02,369 beautiful and now we're talking about 3008 02:43:09,660 --> 02:43:06,430 2500 BC and they replicated them one 3009 02:43:13,580 --> 02:43:09,670 after another an apparently Joe it was 3010 02:43:18,149 --> 02:43:13,590 really bleep and easy because they 3011 02:43:22,139 --> 02:43:18,159 40,000 of them had to be it had to be 3012 02:43:23,910 --> 02:43:22,149 some kind of like a production line you 3013 02:43:25,410 --> 02:43:23,920 know which kind of brings me to my next 3014 02:43:29,370 --> 02:43:25,420 question is that if something like that 3015 02:43:31,740 --> 02:43:29,380 is so popular and is there's only one of 3016 02:43:33,450 --> 02:43:31,750 them if the pyramids were used to 3017 02:43:35,160 --> 02:43:33,460 generate electricity or some kind of 3018 02:43:37,410 --> 02:43:35,170 power with the Bisons were they 3019 02:43:39,870 --> 02:43:37,420 parlament they don't have any record of 3020 02:43:41,969 --> 02:43:39,880 any kind of you know you know light 3021 02:43:43,859 --> 02:43:41,979 bulbs and homes or you know nobody had a 3022 02:43:45,630 --> 02:43:43,869 toaster or a blender and he's like that 3023 02:43:47,490 --> 02:43:45,640 you know he gets it so what were they 3024 02:43:50,011 --> 02:43:47,500 powering if it was a power plant what 3025 02:43:55,830 --> 02:43:50,021 was it powering I'm 3026 02:44:00,180 --> 02:43:55,840 King here to see what the disk was made 3027 02:44:01,650 --> 02:44:00,190 of I need somebody to post it up in 3028 02:44:09,290 --> 02:44:01,660 Twitter I'm not going to waste my time 3029 02:44:13,950 --> 02:44:09,300 right here my mind says it was like 3030 02:44:15,600 --> 02:44:13,960 black granite or diorite which even then 3031 02:44:18,270 --> 02:44:15,610 you know died right is as hard as 3032 02:44:21,091 --> 02:44:18,280 diamond or just about on the hardness 3033 02:44:25,591 --> 02:44:21,101 scale so how would you carve this and 3034 02:44:27,900 --> 02:44:25,601 smooth this if this is metal now we're 3035 02:44:30,450 --> 02:44:27,910 talking about a bonafide piece of 3036 02:44:34,950 --> 02:44:30,460 machinery I didn't know it was metal can 3037 02:44:37,051 --> 02:44:34,960 somebody tell me what the disk of uh I 3038 02:44:39,171 --> 02:44:37,061 just googled it and I got an answer for 3039 02:44:42,750 --> 02:44:39,181 Wikipedia it says it's a medium grade 3040 02:44:44,881 --> 02:44:42,760 metamorphic rock with no shifting the 3041 02:44:47,341 --> 02:44:44,891 actual material I'm sorry the actual 3042 02:44:49,110 --> 02:44:47,351 schist discs they keep seeing on that 3043 02:44:51,211 --> 02:44:49,120 sleep button I'm trying to trying to say 3044 02:44:55,591 --> 02:44:51,221 that slowly I know it's okay you could 3045 02:44:58,051 --> 02:44:55,601 say I should ask you know but did I just 3046 02:45:00,360 --> 02:44:58,061 say that I got a bleep myself you said 3047 02:45:03,870 --> 02:45:00,370 it's made of a stone what was what was 3048 02:45:06,600 --> 02:45:03,880 the stone I was actually reading the 3049 02:45:09,000 --> 02:45:06,610 definition of the word schist in 3050 02:45:11,011 --> 02:45:09,010 Wikipedia it's just is actually a stone 3051 02:45:13,500 --> 02:45:11,021 from what it sounds like 3052 02:45:15,810 --> 02:45:13,510 I may be mistaking I'm not a I'm not a 3053 02:45:17,400 --> 02:45:15,820 scholar or anything here but let me see 3054 02:45:19,410 --> 02:45:17,410 I'm looking at yeah yeah I'm trying to 3055 02:45:22,250 --> 02:45:19,420 find it to somebody somebody's going to 3056 02:45:27,720 --> 02:45:22,260 post it here in Twitter 3057 02:45:31,560 --> 02:45:27,730 somebody just said it's a composite come 3058 02:45:37,440 --> 02:45:31,570 on everybody let's go what is it made 3059 02:45:40,650 --> 02:45:37,450 out of but it because I remember when I 3060 02:45:42,740 --> 02:45:40,660 first saw it years years years years ago 3061 02:45:45,180 --> 02:45:42,750 oh my god I don't I don't even know I 3062 02:45:50,150 --> 02:45:45,190 thought it was metal I thought it was 3063 02:45:53,610 --> 02:45:50,160 metal but then it really does how big 3064 02:45:57,360 --> 02:45:53,620 it's about a foot it's about a foot I've 3065 02:46:01,620 --> 02:45:57,370 seen it in the display case Wow it's 3066 02:46:03,420 --> 02:46:01,630 about a foot in diameter but delicate 3067 02:46:06,780 --> 02:46:03,430 material required 3068 02:46:09,929 --> 02:46:06,790 is carving so it must be some kind of 3069 02:46:14,099 --> 02:46:09,939 stone or something let me see here find 3070 02:46:19,229 --> 02:46:14,109 this real quick but okay well now what 3071 02:46:22,349 --> 02:46:19,239 was the second question about the things 3072 02:46:23,580 --> 02:46:22,359 that you know pyramids were powering you 3073 02:46:25,740 --> 02:46:23,590 know a source of power 3074 02:46:27,510 --> 02:46:25,750 what were they power what devices what 3075 02:46:29,820 --> 02:46:27,520 it already you know we don't find you 3076 02:46:31,559 --> 02:46:29,830 know Egyptian toasters or blenders or 3077 02:46:34,320 --> 02:46:31,569 microwave ovens or anything like that 3078 02:46:35,490 --> 02:46:34,330 light bulbs even well maybe you know I 3079 02:46:37,110 --> 02:46:35,500 mean there's a question about whether 3080 02:46:39,840 --> 02:46:37,120 they had light bulbs or not what some of 3081 02:46:42,630 --> 02:46:39,850 those hard lifx if they have that might 3082 02:46:44,160 --> 02:46:42,640 indicate that but other than light bulbs 3083 02:46:48,660 --> 02:46:44,170 what else could have been have been 3084 02:46:51,719 --> 02:46:48,670 powering see now you heard Chris Dunn's 3085 02:46:54,780 --> 02:46:51,729 answer was you know powering cities and 3086 02:46:57,450 --> 02:46:54,790 civilization and and maybe beaming the 3087 02:47:01,189 --> 02:46:57,460 energy to something else off planet or 3088 02:47:08,219 --> 02:47:01,199 to the moon it's all it's made out of 3089 02:47:11,040 --> 02:47:08,229 meta sitstone meta sitstone siltstone 3090 02:47:12,179 --> 02:47:11,050 metals Salone what they I don't even 3091 02:47:20,389 --> 02:47:12,189 know what that is 3092 02:47:30,300 --> 02:47:25,410 its that's even a stone a silt stone 3093 02:47:39,330 --> 02:47:30,310 that has gone under metamorphism to some 3094 02:47:46,319 --> 02:47:39,340 degree whatever that is material that 3095 02:47:52,380 --> 02:47:49,590 so now we're getting so hmm 3096 02:47:55,619 --> 02:47:52,390 it could ah wow that's even more 3097 02:48:01,559 --> 02:47:55,629 fascinating to me what minerals are in 3098 02:48:03,689 --> 02:48:01,569 it iron oxide silica ah okay compacted 3099 02:48:06,719 --> 02:48:03,699 together cemented together into a solid 3100 02:48:08,909 --> 02:48:06,729 stone it's composited from hyoeun oxides 3101 02:48:11,159 --> 02:48:08,919 and cementing materials 3102 02:48:13,109 --> 02:48:11,169 there you go minerals are deposited in 3103 02:48:16,829 --> 02:48:13,119 the spaces between the silk grains by 3104 02:48:20,279 --> 02:48:16,839 water that's even more fascinating it's 3105 02:48:24,179 --> 02:48:20,289 a composite material for sure is this 3106 02:48:28,590 --> 02:48:24,189 this is what I what about and I know 3107 02:48:33,260 --> 02:48:28,600 we're getting into crazy science fiction 3108 02:48:41,809 --> 02:48:33,270 and and Stargate and all of that but 3109 02:48:44,489 --> 02:48:41,819 what if it was a transporting device 3110 02:48:46,109 --> 02:48:44,499 using that net energy to go to a 3111 02:48:51,170 --> 02:48:46,119 parallel world to go to another 3112 02:48:55,920 --> 02:48:51,180 dimension a teleporter type of situation 3113 02:48:58,710 --> 02:48:55,930 that you were placed into this is what I 3114 02:49:06,539 --> 02:48:58,720 thought you lay down in the sarcophagus 3115 02:49:07,880 --> 02:49:06,549 and poof beam me up right right right 3116 02:49:13,109 --> 02:49:07,890 right 3117 02:49:14,699 --> 02:49:13,119 okay I'm just saying you know you got 3118 02:49:17,039 --> 02:49:14,709 enough material for a second interview 3119 02:49:19,170 --> 02:49:17,049 with mr. Dunn I thought for sure he's 3120 02:49:23,609 --> 02:49:19,180 not off with that stuff well Graham 3121 02:49:26,460 --> 02:49:23,619 Hancock talks enough about this and and 3122 02:49:28,380 --> 02:49:26,470 and I have to I listen to everybody I 3123 02:49:29,849 --> 02:49:28,390 listen to everything I'm I'm trying to 3124 02:49:34,619 --> 02:49:29,859 figure this out just like everybody else 3125 02:49:40,649 --> 02:49:34,629 is but but Graham definitely talks about 3126 02:49:45,630 --> 02:49:40,659 this being a transformational place to 3127 02:49:49,859 --> 02:49:45,640 go transport it into the afterlife right 3128 02:49:54,840 --> 02:49:49,869 and so in in some aspect we don't really 3129 02:49:57,149 --> 02:49:54,850 fully understand what that may mean but 3130 02:50:01,079 --> 02:49:57,159 there are suggestions in a lot of the 3131 02:50:05,789 --> 02:50:01,089 text to support this idea but are we 3132 02:50:09,019 --> 02:50:05,799 going to the next level where what is 3133 02:50:12,349 --> 02:50:09,029 what I'm suggesting you know actually 3134 02:50:15,449 --> 02:50:12,359 transport it I'm talking about you Joe 3135 02:50:18,029 --> 02:50:15,459 disappearing yeah right and appearing 3136 02:50:20,969 --> 02:50:18,039 somewhere holds into into another 3137 02:50:23,819 --> 02:50:20,979 dimension into a parallel world to Mars 3138 02:50:27,679 --> 02:50:23,829 I don't know and if we're going you know 3139 02:50:32,010 --> 02:50:27,689 and taking it into the Stargate idea and 3140 02:50:35,219 --> 02:50:32,020 and and presupposing something like this 3141 02:50:39,179 --> 02:50:35,229 well okay I'm okay with it and the 3142 02:50:41,130 --> 02:50:39,189 reason why I listen to anybody's ideas 3143 02:50:46,489 --> 02:50:41,140 here is because quite simply what nobody 3144 02:50:48,689 --> 02:50:46,499 knows no he ain't knows nobody knows 3145 02:50:50,489 --> 02:50:48,699 discs being made of that kind of 3146 02:50:53,039 --> 02:50:50,499 material I don't think it was used to 3147 02:50:56,909 --> 02:50:53,049 cut or board through anything it wasn't 3148 02:50:59,819 --> 02:50:56,919 a tip it wasn't cutting tool it was used 3149 02:51:01,829 --> 02:50:59,829 to do something else you know I mean if 3150 02:51:04,469 --> 02:51:01,839 it was used to cut you're not gonna cut 3151 02:51:05,909 --> 02:51:04,479 granite with a piece of that kind of 3152 02:51:08,010 --> 02:51:05,919 stone like that it sounds like it's 3153 02:51:10,559 --> 02:51:08,020 fragile it sounds like it would crack or 3154 02:51:12,239 --> 02:51:10,569 break so it had to spin it might have 3155 02:51:16,679 --> 02:51:12,249 some kind of properties when it spins 3156 02:51:20,579 --> 02:51:16,689 you know that yeah if it's been about an 3157 02:51:27,420 --> 02:51:20,589 exhaust fan in the Giza pizza parlor 3158 02:51:30,119 --> 02:51:27,430 right let's just say and I'm not being 3159 02:51:35,130 --> 02:51:30,129 funny here I'm not being funny because 3160 02:51:39,479 --> 02:51:35,140 it looks to me to be very propeller ish 3161 02:51:44,789 --> 02:51:39,489 right I'd like it was designed to sit on 3162 02:51:48,659 --> 02:51:44,799 a shaft in some kind of tube and it was 3163 02:51:52,139 --> 02:51:48,669 moving volumes of air you know or water 3164 02:51:54,090 --> 02:51:52,149 or water right that and that's what it 3165 02:51:56,460 --> 02:51:54,100 looked at I'm sorry that's what it looks 3166 02:52:03,059 --> 02:51:56,470 like to me it doesn't it doesn't look 3167 02:52:04,590 --> 02:52:03,069 like a lotus flower of Oz you know I had 3168 02:52:07,019 --> 02:52:04,600 to guess that'd I'd say it was moving 3169 02:52:09,329 --> 02:52:07,029 air in those chambers while they were 3170 02:52:11,069 --> 02:52:09,339 working down there because you can't go 3171 02:52:12,810 --> 02:52:11,079 too far like in those gold mines and 3172 02:52:18,001 --> 02:52:12,820 stuff you know you can't go 3173 02:52:21,541 --> 02:52:18,011 far in a in a cave like that or in a 3174 02:52:25,320 --> 02:52:21,551 tunnel without running out of oxygen you 3175 02:52:28,261 --> 02:52:25,330 know fresh oxygen boom you will pass out 3176 02:52:31,200 --> 02:52:28,271 and die after uh you know a pretty good 3177 02:52:33,211 --> 02:52:31,210 distance so they had to have something 3178 02:52:36,330 --> 02:52:33,221 that knew that air wonder if anybody 3179 02:52:38,761 --> 02:52:36,340 could 3d print it you know and spin it 3180 02:52:41,970 --> 02:52:38,771 you know and see what happens I somebody 3181 02:52:44,791 --> 02:52:41,980 somewhere has to have made a model oh 3182 02:52:49,370 --> 02:52:44,801 I'm looking at one here I'm looking at a 3183 02:52:52,980 --> 02:52:49,380 3d printed version of it right here Wow 3184 02:52:57,350 --> 02:52:52,990 look at this okay hold on for a second 3185 02:53:03,900 --> 02:52:57,360 let me are you on are you on Twitter I 3186 02:53:05,190 --> 02:53:03,910 am okay okay okay hang on know what I'm 3187 02:53:08,820 --> 02:53:05,200 going to tell you to do is just go 3188 02:53:14,400 --> 02:53:08,830 straight over to Twitter right now and I 3189 02:53:16,610 --> 02:53:14,410 am going to post this right now I messed 3190 02:53:20,280 --> 02:53:16,620 it up okay it doesn't matter 3191 02:53:22,230 --> 02:53:20,290 do-do-do-do-do-do Peru I love doing this 3192 02:53:23,970 --> 02:53:22,240 live on the air see this is what I act 3193 02:53:27,240 --> 02:53:23,980 like when I'm on the computer I don't 3194 02:53:31,830 --> 02:53:27,250 know what I'm doing okay now check this 3195 02:53:34,350 --> 02:53:31,840 out I just posted BAM a 3d printed 3196 02:53:38,520 --> 02:53:34,360 version of it go and check it out 3197 02:53:43,801 --> 02:53:38,530 hashtag FTP or go to my feed wow I see 3198 02:53:44,341 --> 02:53:43,811 it I know right yeah all right could 3199 02:53:46,350 --> 02:53:44,351 that have been 3200 02:53:48,900 --> 02:53:46,360 I mean because it's not you know like a 3201 02:53:51,751 --> 02:53:48,910 fan or a propeller would have to have 3202 02:53:58,051 --> 02:53:51,761 one edge of those blades would have to 3203 02:54:01,140 --> 02:53:58,061 be off it wouldn't be movement you know 3204 02:54:04,770 --> 02:54:01,150 yet to cause movement forward or up or 3205 02:54:06,631 --> 02:54:04,780 down or whatever to change the flow you 3206 02:54:09,211 --> 02:54:06,641 know they'd have to create lift whether 3207 02:54:11,610 --> 02:54:09,221 its water or whatever air or whatever 3208 02:54:18,570 --> 02:54:11,620 have to create some found lift so maybe 3209 02:54:21,511 --> 02:54:18,580 it was used to I don't know that's you'd 3210 02:54:24,150 --> 02:54:21,521 have to put that on a shaft so it could 3211 02:54:24,810 --> 02:54:24,160 spin freely and then pour water over it 3212 02:54:27,450 --> 02:54:24,820 or blow 3213 02:54:29,541 --> 02:54:27,460 on it and see what happens you know and 3214 02:54:31,830 --> 02:54:29,551 it could also be some kind of leveling 3215 02:54:35,251 --> 02:54:31,840 you know if you had a liquid in the 3216 02:54:38,730 --> 02:54:35,261 middle that it would then drip over the 3217 02:54:42,751 --> 02:54:38,740 holes once it was full and maybe it was 3218 02:54:45,270 --> 02:54:42,761 some kind of control device maybe it's 3219 02:54:46,890 --> 02:54:45,280 but no wouldn't different fella for wind 3220 02:54:48,690 --> 02:54:46,900 general you know wind power generation 3221 02:54:50,881 --> 02:54:48,700 anything like that well you know what 3222 02:54:53,791 --> 02:54:50,891 we're looking at it we're looking at it 3223 02:54:55,910 --> 02:54:53,801 with our modern Minds here because we 3224 02:54:59,400 --> 02:54:55,920 know what a propeller looks like right 3225 02:55:03,841 --> 02:54:59,410 but right we don't know with what would 3226 02:55:12,421 --> 02:55:03,851 happen to this if wind or liquid was was 3227 02:55:14,700 --> 02:55:12,431 moving past this or or what I just you 3228 02:55:17,070 --> 02:55:14,710 know what I just thought what if it was 3229 02:55:19,700 --> 02:55:17,080 like a grinding device like at the 3230 02:55:24,091 --> 02:55:19,710 bottom of a blender 3231 02:55:30,990 --> 02:55:24,101 yeah like to blend coffee and coffee 3232 02:55:34,440 --> 02:55:31,000 that blend carpet what if it did 3233 02:55:40,671 --> 02:55:34,450 something else what if it was a blending 3234 02:55:47,011 --> 02:55:43,381 mixing mortar mixing two liquids 3235 02:55:48,270 --> 02:55:47,021 together like the way you think man I 3236 02:55:49,921 --> 02:55:48,280 like the way you think I would have 3237 02:55:52,711 --> 02:55:49,931 never thought of it if you didn't call 3238 02:55:55,470 --> 02:55:52,721 Joe I wish we would have been able to 3239 02:55:57,720 --> 02:55:55,480 get mr. Dunn to take a look at that and 3240 02:56:00,211 --> 02:55:57,730 see what his opinion is yeah I did I 3241 02:56:02,940 --> 02:56:00,221 didn't I thought about it like three or 3242 02:56:06,301 --> 02:56:02,950 four times but I can tell you what it I 3243 02:56:12,211 --> 02:56:06,311 can I can tell you what it's not it's 3244 02:56:15,060 --> 02:56:12,221 not a lotus flower Boz pretty confident 3245 02:56:17,011 --> 02:56:15,070 pretty cocky there hey Joe thank you so 3246 02:56:19,921 --> 02:56:17,021 much vandamm we'll see it tomorrow night 3247 02:56:23,630 --> 02:56:19,931 Brad Claussen is here are you were you 3248 02:56:32,449 --> 02:56:27,920 were you a fan of his artwork who's that 3249 02:56:36,080 --> 02:56:32,459 Brad Claussen tomorrow night no sir I'm 3250 02:56:39,500 --> 02:56:36,090 totally ignorant of that apologize what 3251 02:56:43,489 --> 02:56:39,510 do you mean you weren't what's your 3252 02:56:46,189 --> 02:56:43,499 favorite band oh I'd have to say rush 3253 02:56:49,219 --> 02:56:46,199 pink floyd-- Iron Maiden yes something 3254 02:56:52,760 --> 02:56:49,229 like that I play bass oh right what 3255 02:56:55,880 --> 02:56:52,770 about Pearl Jam Oh Pearl Jam 3256 02:56:58,449 --> 02:56:55,890 well he did all of Pearl Jam's uh art 3257 02:56:59,630 --> 02:56:58,459 work he was there in-house designer oh 3258 02:57:02,260 --> 02:56:59,640 really 3259 02:57:08,090 --> 02:57:02,270 yeah he's gonna be that's tomorrow night 3260 02:57:11,870 --> 02:57:08,100 Wow he's gonna be on yeah that's right 3261 02:57:16,540 --> 02:57:11,880 because it's his research into symbolism 3262 02:57:19,519 --> 02:57:16,550 and ancient Egyptian art and sculpture 3263 02:57:22,460 --> 02:57:19,529 that he has figured out a bunch of this 3264 02:57:24,349 --> 02:57:22,470 symbolism and what it means and it's 3265 02:57:27,410 --> 02:57:24,359 it's going to be an incredible show and 3266 02:57:31,429 --> 02:57:27,420 he incorporates this back into his 3267 02:57:32,929 --> 02:57:31,439 artwork yeah Wow you need to check that 3268 02:57:36,979 --> 02:57:32,939 out I'll see you tomorrow night Joe be 3269 02:57:38,840 --> 02:57:36,989 safe and be well thank you so much thank 3270 02:57:40,189 --> 02:57:38,850 you Joe great phone call right there 3271 02:57:43,370 --> 02:57:40,199 really appreciate that 3272 02:57:47,569 --> 02:57:43,380 the cebú disc I still don't know what it 3273 02:57:51,290 --> 02:57:47,579 is it's definitely not a lotus flower 3274 02:57:54,380 --> 02:57:51,300 Vaz and with that oh man I got a mood 3275 02:57:56,029 --> 02:57:54,390 Joe there okay I gotta get out of here 3276 02:57:59,870 --> 02:57:56,039 what a great conversation tonight 3277 02:58:02,179 --> 02:57:59,880 tomorrow night is night 3 of our Egypt 3278 02:58:05,929 --> 02:58:02,189 week like I just said Brad Claussen is 3279 02:58:08,899 --> 02:58:05,939 gonna be here just an amazing manu Chris 3280 02:58:11,269 --> 02:58:08,909 and Brad all in one week and I'll see 3281 02:58:15,349 --> 02:58:11,279 everybody right here tomorrow night and 3282 02:58:17,569 --> 02:58:15,359 I think I got the I got the hall pass 3283 02:58:20,569 --> 02:58:17,579 for Morita 3284 02:58:23,689 --> 02:58:20,579 it's taco truck night so I'm gonna go 3285 02:58:25,531 --> 02:58:23,699 out and find me a taco truck head home 3286 02:58:29,911 --> 02:58:25,541 and get some D 3287 02:58:31,741 --> 02:58:29,921 I am your host Jimmy Church paid to 3288 02:58:33,720 --> 02:58:31,751 Black's executive producers Rita Kumari 3289 02:58:36,571 --> 02:58:33,730 on shows produced by Hill J palm Renae 3290 02:58:39,720 --> 02:58:36,581 Dennison BOM announces our Steve harder 3291 02:58:42,350 --> 02:58:39,730 Jeanne Bhutto a mark T Kovar webmaster 3292 02:58:45,961 --> 02:58:42,360 is Drude that geek music doug aldrich 3293 02:58:48,531 --> 02:58:45,971 intro space boys space boy music calm 3294 02:58:50,671 --> 02:58:48,541 beta black is produced by kjsurya 3295 02:58:54,241 --> 02:58:50,681 game-changer network and syndication is 3296 02:58:55,890 --> 02:58:54,251 k g ra the planet I got to thank 3297 02:58:58,591 --> 02:58:55,900 Christopher Dunn for coming in tonight 3298 02:59:02,100 --> 02:58:58,601 what a great conversation I waited for 3299 02:59:04,501 --> 02:59:02,110 that for so many years broadcast on a 3300 02:59:06,661 --> 02:59:04,511 copyright at 2018 by fade to black in 3301 02:59:09,331 --> 02:59:06,671 the game changer Network it cannot be 3302 02:59:10,881 --> 02:59:09,341 copied this rebroadcast downloaded or 3303 02:59:13,381 --> 02:59:10,891 used anywhere in the known universe 3304 02:59:15,871 --> 02:59:13,391 without written permission from fade to 3305 02:59:18,180 --> 02:59:15,881 black of the game-changer Network I am 3306 02:59:22,231 --> 02:59:18,190 your host Jimmy Church follow me on 3307 02:59:25,830 --> 02:59:22,241 twitter @jj of twilight crack Claussen 3308 02:59:28,980 --> 02:59:25,840 until then everybody 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